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    | pronouns=Any<ref name="Healthyway">{{Cite web |title=When It Rains, It Roars: A Conversation With Label-Slaying Model Rain Dove |author= |work=HealthyWay |date=18 April 2018 |access-date=11 June 2020 |url= https://www.healthyway.com/content/rain-dove-interview-non-binary-model/|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230528032201/https://www.healthyway.com/content/rain-dove-interview-non-binary-model/ |archive-date=17 July 2023 }}</ref>
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    *"I don’t really feel male or female; I just feel like me."<ref name="vogu_Drag">{{Cite web |title=Drag Kings |last=Phelps |first=Nicole |work=Vogue |date=8 March 2018 |access-date=11 November 2020 |url= https://www.vogue.com/projects/13541679/drag-kings/ |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230526203957/https://www.vogue.com/projects/13541679/drag-kings/ |archive-date=17 July 2023 }}</ref>
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    '''Rain Dove''' (born September 27, 1989) is an American model and actor. They use their naturally [[androgynous]] look to model for both men's and women's lines of clothing.  
    '''Rain Dove''' (born September 27, 1989) is an American model and actor. They use their naturally [[androgynous]] look to model for both men's and women's lines of clothing.  


    Dove began a modeling career after being challenged by a friend to present themselves as a man in a Calvin Klein casting for underwear. At the casting, they were handed the outfit for the test shoot, which was just a pair of underwear. When Dove came in topless, the designer responded by giving them a men's shirt and saying "Swear to God, you will not tell anyone you're a woman!"<ref>{{Cite news|url=http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/gay-south-florida/palette-magazine/article25508638.html|title=Q&A: How Rain Dove Went From "Tranny Danny" to Transforming the Fashion Industry|last=Love|first=Bret|date=June 25, 2015|work=Miami Herald|access-date=May 26, 2018}}</ref> After the show, people began seeking Dove for modeling jobs; three months later they accepted their first modeling job and have since walked at New York fashion week on both men's and women's runways.<ref>{{Cite news|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/rain-dove-model-defying-gender-norms-fashion-industry-men-women-clothing-firefighter-a7832991.html|title=Rain Dove is the genderless firefighter changing the face of the modeling industry|last=Young|first=Sarah|date=July 10, 2017|work=The Independent|access-date=May 26, 2018}}</ref>
    Dove began a modeling career after being challenged by a friend to present themselves as a man in a Calvin Klein casting for underwear. At the casting, they were handed the outfit for the test shoot, which was just a pair of underwear. When Dove came in topless, the designer responded by giving them a men's shirt and saying "Swear to God, you will not tell anyone you're a woman!"<ref>{{Cite news|url=http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/gay-south-florida/palette-magazine/article25508638.html|title=Q&A: How Rain Dove Went From "Tranny Danny" to Transforming the Fashion Industry|last=Love|first=Bret|date=June 25, 2015|work=Miami Herald|access-date=May 26, 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200101045238/https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/gay-south-florida/palette-magazine/article25508638.html|archive-date=17 July 2023}}</ref> After the show, people began seeking Dove for modeling jobs; three months later they accepted their first modeling job and have since walked at New York fashion week on both men's and women's runways.<ref>{{Cite news|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/rain-dove-model-defying-gender-norms-fashion-industry-men-women-clothing-firefighter-a7832991.html|title=Rain Dove is the genderless firefighter changing the face of the modeling industry|last=Young|first=Sarah|date=July 10, 2017|work=The Independent|access-date=May 26, 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20211128111633/https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/rain-dove-model-defying-gender-norms-fashion-industry-men-women-clothing-firefighter-a7832991.html|archive-date=17 July 2023}}</ref>


    Initially, Dove claimed in interviews and biographies to have studied genetic engineering and civil law at University of California, Berkeley. They also claimed to have worked as a Colorado Firefighter under a male pseudonym, and to have passed as a man during this time, for a period of eleven months.<ref name="buzzfeed">{{Cite news|url=https://www.buzzfeed.com/skarlan/13-reasons-rain-dove-is-the-androgynous-model-of-your-dreams|title=13 Reasons Rain Dove Is The Androgynous Model Of Your Dreams|last=Karlan|first=Sarah|work=BuzzFeed|access-date=26 May 2018}}</ref> However, in late 2019 Dove admitted in a video on NBC News that both of these claims (of having studied genetics and law, and of having been a firefighter) were false.<ref name="Kacala">{{Cite web |title=Rain Dove admits to selling TMZ incriminating Asia Argento texts |last=Kacala |first=Alexander |work=NBC News |date=17 December 2019 |access-date=8 April 2020 |url= https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/rain-dove-admits-selling-tmz-incriminating-asia-argento-texts-n1103466?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma }}</ref> Dove stated in the video that they wanted, "to just put everything out on the table, everything that I have done or have said that may not be fair or right or may have hurt people".<ref name="Kacala" />
    Initially, Dove claimed in interviews and biographies to have studied genetic engineering and civil law at University of California, Berkeley. They also claimed to have worked as a Colorado Firefighter under a male pseudonym, and to have passed as a man during this time, for a period of eleven months.<ref name="buzzfeed">{{Cite news|url=https://www.buzzfeed.com/skarlan/13-reasons-rain-dove-is-the-androgynous-model-of-your-dreams|title=13 Reasons Rain Dove Is The Androgynous Model Of Your Dreams|last=Karlan|first=Sarah|work=BuzzFeed|access-date=26 May 2018|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230707095259/https://www.buzzfeed.com/skarlan/13-reasons-rain-dove-is-the-androgynous-model-of-your-dreams|archive-date=17 July 2023}}</ref> However, in late 2019 Dove admitted in a video on NBC News that both of these claims (of having studied genetics and law, and of having been a firefighter) were false.<ref name="Kacala">{{Cite web |title=Rain Dove admits to selling TMZ incriminating Asia Argento texts |last=Kacala |first=Alexander |work=NBC News |date=17 December 2019 |access-date=8 April 2020 |url= https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/rain-dove-admits-selling-tmz-incriminating-asia-argento-texts-n1103466?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20220807184441/https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/rain-dove-admits-selling-tmz-incriminating-asia-argento-texts-n1103466?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma |archive-date=17 July 2023 }}</ref> Dove stated in the video that they wanted, "to just put everything out on the table, everything that I have done or have said that may not be fair or right or may have hurt people".<ref name="Kacala" />


    Dove has called themself "a '[[Agender|zero gender]]'/'[[Pangender|all gender]]' model"<ref>{{cite tweet|user=raindovemodel|author=Rain Dove|number=1174676293293658113|title=Same campaign. First time they have ever had a “zero gender”/“all gender” model. They let me edit the script and approve all wardrobe including a binder. It’s was a collaboration not an exploitation. Finally! Which look so You prefer? #orangevsblue #lgbtq #genderqueer|date=September 19, 2019}}</ref> and often tweets with the #[[genderqueer]] hashtag. Dove has no pronoun preference: "Use she, he, it, one, they ... I honestly don't care ... All I'm listening for in that sound is positivity."<ref>{{cite web|last=Cocozza|first=Paula|date=10 Sep 2018|title='Every step I take is a defiance': Rain Dove on modelling, Asia Argento and 'gender capitalism'|work=The Guardian|accessdate=8 April 2020|url=https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/sep/10/every-step-i-take-is-a-defiance-rain-dove-on-modelling-asia-argento-and-gender-capitalism}}</ref> They have stated "in all reality... I am nothing. Neither a man nor woman. I am a human. I just have specific anatomical capacities that I am satiated with and do not want to change."<ref name="rain_Lett">{{Cite web |title=Letter to Mens Designers from Someone Without a Penis Who Looks Good in Their Clothes |first=Rain |last=Dove |work=raindovethemodel.blogspot.com |date=21 August 2015 |access-date=27 March 2020 |url= https://raindovethemodel.blogspot.com/2015/08/letter-to-mens-designers-from-someone.html }}</ref> "I don’t identify as 'male' or 'female' but rather as I am I."<ref>{{cite tweet|author=Rain Dove|user=raindovemodel|number=1179787549121896449|date=October 3, 2019|title=I don’t identify as “male” or “female” but rather as I am I. However dating can be a very binary world. So I’ve spent the year conducting various studies about my experiences being perceived on dating apps as male vs female. Here’s some of what I found. #IAmI #lgbtq #genderqueer}}</ref>. However, Dove does not identify as [[transgender]].<ref name="nbcn_Andr">{{Cite web |title=Androgynous Model Rain Dove Walks the Gender Divide |last=Compton |first=Julie |work=NBC News |date=18 August 2016 |access-date=8 April 2020 |url= https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/outfront-androgynous-model-rain-dove-walks-gender-divide-n632676 |quote=I am not transgender, but at the same time I get treated like I am. I have a lot of the fear, but the thing I have that backs me up is my ID. I have my breasts. I have my vagina. I can prove [my gender]. I can't identify one 100 percent with [the transgender community’s] struggle… But the violence [they face] really scares me }}</ref><ref>{{cite tweet|user=raindovemodel|author=Rain Dove|number=1233583749960351744|title=Lol I’m not trans.|date=28 February 2020}}</ref>
    Dove has called themself "a '[[Agender|zero gender]]'/'[[Pangender|all gender]]' model"<ref>{{cite tweet|user=raindovemodel|author=Rain Dove|number=1174676293293658113|title=Same campaign. First time they have ever had a “zero gender”/“all gender” model. They let me edit the script and approve all wardrobe including a binder. It’s was a collaboration not an exploitation. Finally! Which look so You prefer? #orangevsblue #lgbtq #genderqueer|date=September 19, 2019}}</ref> and often tweets with the #[[genderqueer]] hashtag. Dove has no pronoun preference: "Use she, he, it, one, they ... I honestly don't care ... All I'm listening for in that sound is positivity."<ref>{{cite web|last=Cocozza|first=Paula|date=10 Sep 2018|title='Every step I take is a defiance': Rain Dove on modelling, Asia Argento and 'gender capitalism'|work=The Guardian|accessdate=8 April 2020|url=https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/sep/10/every-step-i-take-is-a-defiance-rain-dove-on-modelling-asia-argento-and-gender-capitalism|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230325200519/https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/sep/10/every-step-i-take-is-a-defiance-rain-dove-on-modelling-asia-argento-and-gender-capitalism|archive-date=17 July 2023}}</ref> They have stated "in all reality... I am nothing. Neither a man nor woman. I am a human. I just have specific anatomical capacities that I am satiated with and do not want to change."<ref name="rain_Lett">{{Cite web |title=Letter to Mens Designers from Someone Without a Penis Who Looks Good in Their Clothes |first=Rain |last=Dove |work=raindovethemodel.blogspot.com |date=21 August 2015 |access-date=27 March 2020 |url= https://raindovethemodel.blogspot.com/2015/08/letter-to-mens-designers-from-someone.html |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201113232917/http://raindovethemodel.blogspot.com/2015/08/letter-to-mens-designers-from-someone.html |archive-date=17 July 2023 }}</ref> "I don’t identify as 'male' or 'female' but rather as I am I."<ref>{{cite tweet|author=Rain Dove|user=raindovemodel|number=1179787549121896449|date=October 3, 2019|title=I don’t identify as “male” or “female” but rather as I am I. However dating can be a very binary world. So I’ve spent the year conducting various studies about my experiences being perceived on dating apps as male vs female. Here’s some of what I found. #IAmI #lgbtq #genderqueer}}</ref>. However, Dove does not identify as [[transgender]].<ref name="nbcn_Andr">{{Cite web |title=Androgynous Model Rain Dove Walks the Gender Divide |last=Compton |first=Julie |work=NBC News |date=18 August 2016 |access-date=8 April 2020 |url= https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/outfront-androgynous-model-rain-dove-walks-gender-divide-n632676 |quote=I am not transgender, but at the same time I get treated like I am. I have a lot of the fear, but the thing I have that backs me up is my ID. I have my breasts. I have my vagina. I can prove [my gender]. I can't identify one 100 percent with [the transgender community’s] struggle… But the violence [they face] really scares me |archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230528070408/https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/outfront-androgynous-model-rain-dove-walks-gender-divide-n632676 |archive-date=17 July 2023 }}</ref><ref>{{cite tweet|user=raindovemodel|author=Rain Dove|number=1233583749960351744|title=Lol I’m not trans.|date=28 February 2020}}</ref>


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    Rain Dove
    Date of birth September 27, 1989
    Place of birth Vermont, United States
    Nationality American
    Pronouns Any[1]
    Gender identity
    Occupation model, actor

    Rain Dove (born September 27, 1989) is an American model and actor. They use their naturally androgynous look to model for both men's and women's lines of clothing.

    Dove began a modeling career after being challenged by a friend to present themselves as a man in a Calvin Klein casting for underwear. At the casting, they were handed the outfit for the test shoot, which was just a pair of underwear. When Dove came in topless, the designer responded by giving them a men's shirt and saying "Swear to God, you will not tell anyone you're a woman!"[3] After the show, people began seeking Dove for modeling jobs; three months later they accepted their first modeling job and have since walked at New York fashion week on both men's and women's runways.[4]

    Initially, Dove claimed in interviews and biographies to have studied genetic engineering and civil law at University of California, Berkeley. They also claimed to have worked as a Colorado Firefighter under a male pseudonym, and to have passed as a man during this time, for a period of eleven months.[5] However, in late 2019 Dove admitted in a video on NBC News that both of these claims (of having studied genetics and law, and of having been a firefighter) were false.[6] Dove stated in the video that they wanted, "to just put everything out on the table, everything that I have done or have said that may not be fair or right or may have hurt people".[6]

    Dove has called themself "a 'zero gender'/'all gender' model"[7] and often tweets with the #genderqueer hashtag. Dove has no pronoun preference: "Use she, he, it, one, they ... I honestly don't care ... All I'm listening for in that sound is positivity."[8] They have stated "in all reality... I am nothing. Neither a man nor woman. I am a human. I just have specific anatomical capacities that I am satiated with and do not want to change."[9] "I don’t identify as 'male' or 'female' but rather as I am I."[10]. However, Dove does not identify as transgender.[11][12]

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    1. ↑ "When It Rains, It Roars: A Conversation With Label-Slaying Model Rain Dove". HealthyWay. 18 April 2018. Archived from the original on 17 July 2023. Retrieved 11 June 2020.
    2. ↑ Phelps, Nicole (8 March 2018). "Drag Kings". Vogue. Archived from the original on 17 July 2023. Retrieved 11 November 2020.
    3. ↑ Love, Bret (June 25, 2015). "Q&A: How Rain Dove Went From "Tranny Danny" to Transforming the Fashion Industry". Miami Herald. Archived from the original on 17 July 2023. Retrieved May 26, 2018.
    4. ↑ Young, Sarah (July 10, 2017). "Rain Dove is the genderless firefighter changing the face of the modeling industry". The Independent. Archived from the original on 17 July 2023. Retrieved May 26, 2018.
    5. ↑ Karlan, Sarah. "13 Reasons Rain Dove Is The Androgynous Model Of Your Dreams". BuzzFeed. Archived from the original on 17 July 2023. Retrieved 26 May 2018.
    6. ↑ 6.0 6.1 Kacala, Alexander (17 December 2019). "Rain Dove admits to selling TMZ incriminating Asia Argento texts". NBC News. Archived from the original on 17 July 2023. Retrieved 8 April 2020.
    7. ↑ Rain Dove [@raindovemodel] (September 19, 2019). "Same campaign. First time they have ever had a "zero gender"/"all gender" model. They let me edit the script and approve all wardrobe including a binder. It's was a collaboration not an exploitation. Finally! Which look so You prefer? #orangevsblue #lgbtq #genderqueer" – via Twitter.
    8. ↑ Cocozza, Paula (10 Sep 2018). "'Every step I take is a defiance': Rain Dove on modelling, Asia Argento and 'gender capitalism'". The Guardian. Archived from the original on 17 July 2023. Retrieved 8 April 2020. CS1 maint: discouraged parameter (link)
    9. ↑ Dove, Rain (21 August 2015). "Letter to Mens Designers from Someone Without a Penis Who Looks Good in Their Clothes". raindovethemodel.blogspot.com. Archived from the original on 17 July 2023. Retrieved 27 March 2020.
    10. ↑ Rain Dove [@raindovemodel] (October 3, 2019). "I don't identify as "male" or "female" but rather as I am I. However dating can be a very binary world. So I've spent the year conducting various studies about my experiences being perceived on dating apps as male vs female. Here's some of what I found. #IAmI #lgbtq #genderqueer" – via Twitter.
    11. ↑ Compton, Julie (18 August 2016). "Androgynous Model Rain Dove Walks the Gender Divide". NBC News. Archived from the original on 17 July 2023. Retrieved 8 April 2020. I am not transgender, but at the same time I get treated like I am. I have a lot of the fear, but the thing I have that backs me up is my ID. I have my breasts. I have my vagina. I can prove [my gender]. I can't identify one 100 percent with [the transgender community’s] struggle… But the violence [they face] really scares me
    12. ↑ Rain Dove [@raindovemodel] (28 February 2020). "Lol I'm not trans" – via Twitter.
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