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	'''Rain Dove''' is ~~probably retarded~~ just like ~~anyone here~~		'''Rain Dove''' (born September 27, 1989) is an American model and actor. They use their naturally [[androgynous]] look to model for both men's and women's lines of clothing.

			Dove began a modeling career after being challenged by a friend to present themselves as a man in a Calvin Klein casting for underwear. At the casting, they were handed the outfit for the test shoot, which was just a pair of underwear. When Dove came in topless, the designer responded by giving them a men's shirt and saying "Swear to God, you will not tell anyone you're a woman!"<ref>{{Cite news\|url=http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/gay-south-florida/palette-magazine/article25508638.html\|title=Q&A: How Rain Dove Went From "Tranny Danny" to Transforming the Fashion Industry\|last=Love\|first=Bret\|date=June 25, 2015\|work=Miami Herald\|access-date=May 26, 2018\|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200101045238/https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/gay-south-florida/palette-magazine/article25508638.html\|archive-date=17 July 2023}}</ref> After the show, people began seeking Dove for modeling jobs; three months later they accepted their first modeling job and have since walked at New York fashion week on both men's and women's runways.<ref>{{Cite news\|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/rain-dove-model-defying-gender-norms-fashion-industry-men-women-clothing-firefighter-a7832991.html\|title=Rain Dove is the genderless firefighter changing the face of the modeling industry\|last=Young\|first=Sarah\|date=July 10, 2017\|work=The Independent\|access-date=May 26, 2018\|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20211128111633/https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/rain-dove-model-defying-gender-norms-fashion-industry-men-women-clothing-firefighter-a7832991.html\|archive-date=17 July 2023}}</ref>

			Initially, Dove claimed in interviews and biographies to have studied genetic engineering and civil law at University of California, Berkeley. They also claimed to have worked as a Colorado Firefighter under a male pseudonym, and to have passed as a man during this time, for a period of eleven months.<ref name="buzzfeed">{{Cite news\|url=https://www.buzzfeed.com/skarlan/13-reasons-rain-dove-is-the-androgynous-model-of-your-dreams\|title=13 Reasons Rain Dove Is The Androgynous Model Of Your Dreams\|last=Karlan\|first=Sarah\|work=BuzzFeed\|access-date=26 May 2018\|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230707095259/https://www.buzzfeed.com/skarlan/13-reasons-rain-dove-is-the-androgynous-model-of-your-dreams\|archive-date=17 July 2023}}</ref> However, in late 2019 Dove admitted in a video on NBC News that both of these claims (of having studied genetics and law, and of having been a firefighter) were false.<ref name="Kacala">{{Cite web \|title=Rain Dove admits to selling TMZ incriminating Asia Argento texts \|last=Kacala \|first=Alexander \|work=NBC News \|date=17 December 2019 \|access-date=8 April 2020 \|url= https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/rain-dove-admits-selling-tmz-incriminating-asia-argento-texts-n1103466?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20220807184441/https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/rain-dove-admits-selling-tmz-incriminating-asia-argento-texts-n1103466?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma \|archive-date=17 July 2023 }}</ref> Dove stated in the video that they wanted, "to just put everything out on the table, everything that I have done or have said that may not be fair or right or may have hurt people".<ref name="Kacala" />

			Dove has called themself "a '[[Agender\|zero gender]]'/'[[Pangender\|all gender]]' model"<ref>{{cite tweet\|user=raindovemodel\|author=Rain Dove\|number=1174676293293658113\|title=Same campaign. First time they have ever had a “zero gender”/“all gender” model. They let me edit the script and approve all wardrobe including a binder. It’s was a collaboration not an exploitation. Finally! Which look so You prefer? #orangevsblue #lgbtq #genderqueer\|date=September 19, 2019}}</ref> and often tweets with the #[[genderqueer]] hashtag. Dove has no pronoun preference: "Use she, he, it, one, they ... I honestly don't care ... All I'm listening for in that sound is positivity."<ref>{{cite web\|last=Cocozza\|first=Paula\|date=10 Sep 2018\|title='Every step I take is a defiance': Rain Dove on modelling, Asia Argento and 'gender capitalism'\|work=The Guardian\|accessdate=8 April 2020\|url=https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/sep/10/every-step-i-take-is-a-defiance-rain-dove-on-modelling-asia-argento-and-gender-capitalism\|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230325200519/https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/sep/10/every-step-i-take-is-a-defiance-rain-dove-on-modelling-asia-argento-and-gender-capitalism\|archive-date=17 July 2023}}</ref> They have stated "in all reality... I am nothing. Neither a man nor woman. I am a human. I just have specific anatomical capacities that I am satiated with and do not want to change."<ref name="rain_Lett">{{Cite web \|title=Letter to Mens Designers from Someone Without a Penis Who Looks Good in Their Clothes \|first=Rain \|last=Dove \|work=raindovethemodel.blogspot.com \|date=21 August 2015 \|access-date=27 March 2020 \|url= https://raindovethemodel.blogspot.com/2015/08/letter-to-mens-designers-from-someone.html \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201113232917/http://raindovethemodel.blogspot.com/2015/08/letter-to-mens-designers-from-someone.html \|archive-date=17 July 2023 }}</ref> "I don’t identify as 'male' or 'female' but rather as I am I."<ref>{{cite tweet\|author=Rain Dove\|user=raindovemodel\|number=1179787549121896449\|date=October 3, 2019\|title=I don’t identify as “male” or “female” but rather as I am I. However dating can be a very binary world. So I’ve spent the year conducting various studies about my experiences being perceived on dating apps as male vs female. Here’s some of what I found. #IAmI #lgbtq #genderqueer}}</ref>. However, Dove does not identify as [[transgender]].<ref name="nbcn_Andr">{{Cite web \|title=Androgynous Model Rain Dove Walks the Gender Divide \|last=Compton \|first=Julie \|work=NBC News \|date=18 August 2016 \|access-date=8 April 2020 \|url= https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/outfront-androgynous-model-rain-dove-walks-gender-divide-n632676 \|quote=I am not transgender, but at the same time I get treated like I am. I have a lot of the fear, but the thing I have that backs me up is my ID. I have my breasts. I have my vagina. I can prove [my gender]. I can't identify one 100 percent with [the transgender community’s] struggle… But the violence [they face] really scares me \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230528070408/https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/outfront-androgynous-model-rain-dove-walks-gender-divide-n632676 \|archive-date=17 July 2023 }}</ref><ref>{{cite tweet\|user=raindovemodel\|author=Rain Dove\|number=1233583749960351744\|title=Lol I’m not trans.\|date=28 February 2020}}</ref>

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	'''Rain Dove''' ~~(born September 27, 1989)~~ is ~~an American model and actor. They use their naturally [[androgynous]] look to model for both men's and women's lines of clothing.~~		'''Rain Dove''' is probably retarded just like anyone here

	Dove began a modeling career after being challenged by a friend to present themselves as a man in a Calvin Klein casting for underwear. At the casting, they were handed the outfit for the test shoot, which was just ~~a pair of underwear. When Dove came in topless, the designer responded by giving them a men's shirt and saying "Swear to God, you will not tell~~ anyone you're a woman!"<ref>{{Cite news\|url=http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/gay-south-florida/palette-magazine/article25508638.html\|title=Q&A: How Rain Dove Went From "Tranny Danny" to Transforming the Fashion Industry\|last=Love\|first=Bret\|date=June 25, 2015\|work=Miami Herald\|access-date=May 26, 2018\|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200101045238/https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/gay-south-florida/palette-magazine/article25508638.html\|archive-date=17 July 2023}}</ref> After the show, people began seeking Dove for modeling jobs; three months later they accepted their first modeling job and have since walked at New York fashion week on both men's and women's runways.<ref>{{Cite news\|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/rain-dove-model-defying-gender-norms-fashion-industry-men-women-clothing-firefighter-a7832991.html\|title=Rain Dove is the genderless firefighter changing the face of the modeling industry\|last=Young\|first=Sarah\|date=July 10, 2017\|work=The Independent\|access-date=May 26, 2018\|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20211128111633/https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/rain-dove-model-defying-gender-norms-fashion-industry-men-women-clothing-firefighter-a7832991.html\|archive-date=17 July 2023}}</ref>

	Initially, Dove claimed in interviews and biographies to have studied genetic engineering and civil law at University of California, Berkeley. They also claimed to have worked as a Colorado Firefighter under a male pseudonym, and to have passed as a man during this time, for a period of eleven months.<ref name="buzzfeed">{{Cite news\|url=https://www.buzzfeed.com/skarlan/13-reasons-rain-dove-is-the-androgynous-model-of-your-dreams\|title=13 Reasons Rain Dove Is The Androgynous Model Of Your Dreams\|last=Karlan\|first=Sarah\|work=BuzzFeed\|access-date=26 May 2018\|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230707095259/https://www.buzzfeed.com/skarlan/13-reasons-rain-dove-is-the-androgynous-model-of-your-dreams\|archive-date=17 July 2023}}</ref> However, in late 2019 Dove admitted in a video on NBC News that both of these claims (of having studied genetics and law, and of having been a firefighter) were false.<ref name="Kacala">{{Cite web \|title=Rain Dove admits to selling TMZ incriminating Asia Argento texts \|last=Kacala \|first=Alexander \|work=NBC News \|date=17 December 2019 \|access-date=8 April 2020 \|url= https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/rain-dove-admits-selling-tmz-incriminating-asia-argento-texts-n1103466?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20220807184441/https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/rain-dove-admits-selling-tmz-incriminating-asia-argento-texts-n1103466?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma \|archive-date=17 July 2023 }}</ref> Dove stated in the video that they wanted, "to just put everything out on the table, everything that I have done or have said that may not be fair or right or may have hurt people".<ref name="Kacala" />

	Dove has called themself "a '[[Agender\|zero gender]]'/'[[Pangender\|all gender]]' model"<ref>{{cite tweet\|user=raindovemodel\|author=Rain Dove\|number=1174676293293658113\|title=Same campaign. First time they have ever had a “zero gender”/“all gender” model. They let me edit the script and approve all wardrobe including a binder. It’s was a collaboration not an exploitation. Finally! Which look so You prefer? #orangevsblue #lgbtq #genderqueer\|date=September 19, 2019}}</ref> and often tweets with the #[[genderqueer]] hashtag. Dove has no pronoun preference: "Use she, he, it, one, they ... I honestly don't care ... All I'm listening for in that sound is positivity."<ref>{{cite web\|last=Cocozza\|first=Paula\|date=10 Sep 2018\|title='Every step I take is a defiance': Rain Dove on modelling, Asia Argento and 'gender capitalism'\|work=The Guardian\|accessdate=8 April 2020\|url=https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/sep/10/every-step-i-take-is-a-defiance-rain-dove-on-modelling-asia-argento-and-gender-capitalism\|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230325200519/https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/sep/10/every-step-i-take-is-a-defiance-rain-dove-on-modelling-asia-argento-and-gender-capitalism\|archive-date=17 July 2023}}</ref> They have stated "in all reality... I am nothing. Neither a man nor woman. I am a human. I just have specific anatomical capacities that I am satiated with and do not want to change."<ref name="rain_Lett">{{Cite web \|title=Letter to Mens Designers from Someone Without a Penis Who Looks Good in Their Clothes \|first=Rain \|last=Dove \|work=raindovethemodel.blogspot.com \|date=21 August 2015 \|access-date=27 March 2020 \|url= https://raindovethemodel.blogspot.com/2015/08/letter-to-mens-designers-from-someone.html \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201113232917/http://raindovethemodel.blogspot.com/2015/08/letter-to-mens-designers-from-someone.html \|archive-date=17 July 2023 }}</ref> "I don’t identify as 'male' or 'female' but rather as I am I."<ref>{{cite tweet\|author=Rain Dove\|user=raindovemodel\|number=1179787549121896449\|date=October 3, 2019\|title=I don’t identify as “male” or “female” but rather as I am I. However dating can be a very binary world. So I’ve spent the year conducting various studies about my experiences being perceived on dating apps as male vs female. Here’s some of what I found. #IAmI #lgbtq #genderqueer}}</ref>. However, Dove does not identify as [[transgender]].<ref name="nbcn_Andr">{{Cite web \|title=Androgynous Model Rain Dove Walks the Gender Divide \|last=Compton \|first=Julie \|work=NBC News \|date=18 August 2016 \|access-date=8 April 2020 \|url= https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/outfront-androgynous-model-rain-dove-walks-gender-divide-n632676 \|quote=I am not transgender, but at the same time I get treated like I am. I have a lot of the fear, but the thing I have that backs me up is my ID. I have my breasts. I have my vagina. I can prove [my gender]. I can't identify one 100 percent with [the transgender community’s] struggle… But the violence [they face] really scares me \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230528070408/https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/outfront-androgynous-model-rain-dove-walks-gender-divide-n632676 \|archive-date=17 July 2023 }}</ref><ref>{{cite tweet\|user=raindovemodel\|author=Rain Dove\|number=1233583749960351744\|title=Lol I’m not trans.\|date=28 February 2020}}</ref>

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	'''Rain Dove''' (born September 27, 1989) is an American model and actor. They use their naturally [[androgynous]] look to model for both men's and women's lines of clothing.		'''Rain Dove''' (born September 27, 1989) is an American model and actor. They use their naturally [[androgynous]] look to model for both men's and women's lines of clothing.

	Dove began a modeling career after being challenged by a friend to present themselves as a man in a Calvin Klein casting for underwear. At the casting, they were handed the outfit for the test shoot, which was just a pair of underwear. When Dove came in topless, the designer responded by giving them a men's shirt and saying "Swear to God, you will not tell anyone you're a woman!"<ref>{{Cite news\|url=http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/gay-south-florida/palette-magazine/article25508638.html\|title=Q&A: How Rain Dove Went From "Tranny Danny" to Transforming the Fashion Industry\|last=Love\|first=Bret\|date=June 25, 2015\|work=Miami Herald\|access-date=May 26, 2018}}</ref> After the show, people began seeking Dove for modeling jobs; three months later they accepted their first modeling job and have since walked at New York fashion week on both men's and women's runways.<ref>{{Cite news\|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/rain-dove-model-defying-gender-norms-fashion-industry-men-women-clothing-firefighter-a7832991.html\|title=Rain Dove is the genderless firefighter changing the face of the modeling industry\|last=Young\|first=Sarah\|date=July 10, 2017\|work=The Independent\|access-date=May 26, 2018}}</ref>		Dove began a modeling career after being challenged by a friend to present themselves as a man in a Calvin Klein casting for underwear. At the casting, they were handed the outfit for the test shoot, which was just a pair of underwear. When Dove came in topless, the designer responded by giving them a men's shirt and saying "Swear to God, you will not tell anyone you're a woman!"<ref>{{Cite news\|url=http://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/gay-south-florida/palette-magazine/article25508638.html\|title=Q&A: How Rain Dove Went From "Tranny Danny" to Transforming the Fashion Industry\|last=Love\|first=Bret\|date=June 25, 2015\|work=Miami Herald\|access-date=May 26, 2018\|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20200101045238/https://www.miamiherald.com/news/local/community/gay-south-florida/palette-magazine/article25508638.html\|archive-date=17 July 2023}}</ref> After the show, people began seeking Dove for modeling jobs; three months later they accepted their first modeling job and have since walked at New York fashion week on both men's and women's runways.<ref>{{Cite news\|url=https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/rain-dove-model-defying-gender-norms-fashion-industry-men-women-clothing-firefighter-a7832991.html\|title=Rain Dove is the genderless firefighter changing the face of the modeling industry\|last=Young\|first=Sarah\|date=July 10, 2017\|work=The Independent\|access-date=May 26, 2018\|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20211128111633/https://www.independent.co.uk/life-style/fashion/rain-dove-model-defying-gender-norms-fashion-industry-men-women-clothing-firefighter-a7832991.html\|archive-date=17 July 2023}}</ref>

	Initially, Dove claimed in interviews and biographies to have studied genetic engineering and civil law at University of California, Berkeley. They also claimed to have worked as a Colorado Firefighter under a male pseudonym, and to have passed as a man during this time, for a period of eleven months.<ref name="buzzfeed">{{Cite news\|url=https://www.buzzfeed.com/skarlan/13-reasons-rain-dove-is-the-androgynous-model-of-your-dreams\|title=13 Reasons Rain Dove Is The Androgynous Model Of Your Dreams\|last=Karlan\|first=Sarah\|work=BuzzFeed\|access-date=26 May 2018}}</ref> However, in late 2019 Dove admitted in a video on NBC News that both of these claims (of having studied genetics and law, and of having been a firefighter) were false.<ref name="Kacala">{{Cite web \|title=Rain Dove admits to selling TMZ incriminating Asia Argento texts \|last=Kacala \|first=Alexander \|work=NBC News \|date=17 December 2019 \|access-date=8 April 2020 \|url= https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/rain-dove-admits-selling-tmz-incriminating-asia-argento-texts-n1103466?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma }}</ref> Dove stated in the video that they wanted, "to just put everything out on the table, everything that I have done or have said that may not be fair or right or may have hurt people".<ref name="Kacala" />		Initially, Dove claimed in interviews and biographies to have studied genetic engineering and civil law at University of California, Berkeley. They also claimed to have worked as a Colorado Firefighter under a male pseudonym, and to have passed as a man during this time, for a period of eleven months.<ref name="buzzfeed">{{Cite news\|url=https://www.buzzfeed.com/skarlan/13-reasons-rain-dove-is-the-androgynous-model-of-your-dreams\|title=13 Reasons Rain Dove Is The Androgynous Model Of Your Dreams\|last=Karlan\|first=Sarah\|work=BuzzFeed\|access-date=26 May 2018\|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230707095259/https://www.buzzfeed.com/skarlan/13-reasons-rain-dove-is-the-androgynous-model-of-your-dreams\|archive-date=17 July 2023}}</ref> However, in late 2019 Dove admitted in a video on NBC News that both of these claims (of having studied genetics and law, and of having been a firefighter) were false.<ref name="Kacala">{{Cite web \|title=Rain Dove admits to selling TMZ incriminating Asia Argento texts \|last=Kacala \|first=Alexander \|work=NBC News \|date=17 December 2019 \|access-date=8 April 2020 \|url= https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/rain-dove-admits-selling-tmz-incriminating-asia-argento-texts-n1103466?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20220807184441/https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/rain-dove-admits-selling-tmz-incriminating-asia-argento-texts-n1103466?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma \|archive-date=17 July 2023 }}</ref> Dove stated in the video that they wanted, "to just put everything out on the table, everything that I have done or have said that may not be fair or right or may have hurt people".<ref name="Kacala" />

	Dove has called themself "a '[[Agender\|zero gender]]'/'[[Pangender\|all gender]]' model"<ref>{{cite tweet\|user=raindovemodel\|author=Rain Dove\|number=1174676293293658113\|title=Same campaign. First time they have ever had a “zero gender”/“all gender” model. They let me edit the script and approve all wardrobe including a binder. It’s was a collaboration not an exploitation. Finally! Which look so You prefer? #orangevsblue #lgbtq #genderqueer\|date=September 19, 2019}}</ref> and often tweets with the #[[genderqueer]] hashtag. Dove has no pronoun preference: "Use she, he, it, one, they ... I honestly don't care ... All I'm listening for in that sound is positivity."<ref>{{cite web\|last=Cocozza\|first=Paula\|date=10 Sep 2018\|title='Every step I take is a defiance': Rain Dove on modelling, Asia Argento and 'gender capitalism'\|work=The Guardian\|accessdate=8 April 2020\|url=https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/sep/10/every-step-i-take-is-a-defiance-rain-dove-on-modelling-asia-argento-and-gender-capitalism}}</ref> They have stated "in all reality... I am nothing. Neither a man nor woman. I am a human. I just have specific anatomical capacities that I am satiated with and do not want to change."<ref name="rain_Lett">{{Cite web \|title=Letter to Mens Designers from Someone Without a Penis Who Looks Good in Their Clothes \|first=Rain \|last=Dove \|work=raindovethemodel.blogspot.com \|date=21 August 2015 \|access-date=27 March 2020 \|url= https://raindovethemodel.blogspot.com/2015/08/letter-to-mens-designers-from-someone.html }}</ref> "I don’t identify as 'male' or 'female' but rather as I am I."<ref>{{cite tweet\|author=Rain Dove\|user=raindovemodel\|number=1179787549121896449\|date=October 3, 2019\|title=I don’t identify as “male” or “female” but rather as I am I. However dating can be a very binary world. So I’ve spent the year conducting various studies about my experiences being perceived on dating apps as male vs female. Here’s some of what I found. #IAmI #lgbtq #genderqueer}}</ref>. However, Dove does not identify as [[transgender]].<ref name="nbcn_Andr">{{Cite web \|title=Androgynous Model Rain Dove Walks the Gender Divide \|last=Compton \|first=Julie \|work=NBC News \|date=18 August 2016 \|access-date=8 April 2020 \|url= https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/outfront-androgynous-model-rain-dove-walks-gender-divide-n632676 \|quote=I am not transgender, but at the same time I get treated like I am. I have a lot of the fear, but the thing I have that backs me up is my ID. I have my breasts. I have my vagina. I can prove [my gender]. I can't identify one 100 percent with [the transgender community’s] struggle… But the violence [they face] really scares me }}</ref><ref>{{cite tweet\|user=raindovemodel\|author=Rain Dove\|number=1233583749960351744\|title=Lol I’m not trans.\|date=28 February 2020}}</ref>		Dove has called themself "a '[[Agender\|zero gender]]'/'[[Pangender\|all gender]]' model"<ref>{{cite tweet\|user=raindovemodel\|author=Rain Dove\|number=1174676293293658113\|title=Same campaign. First time they have ever had a “zero gender”/“all gender” model. They let me edit the script and approve all wardrobe including a binder. It’s was a collaboration not an exploitation. Finally! Which look so You prefer? #orangevsblue #lgbtq #genderqueer\|date=September 19, 2019}}</ref> and often tweets with the #[[genderqueer]] hashtag. Dove has no pronoun preference: "Use she, he, it, one, they ... I honestly don't care ... All I'm listening for in that sound is positivity."<ref>{{cite web\|last=Cocozza\|first=Paula\|date=10 Sep 2018\|title='Every step I take is a defiance': Rain Dove on modelling, Asia Argento and 'gender capitalism'\|work=The Guardian\|accessdate=8 April 2020\|url=https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/sep/10/every-step-i-take-is-a-defiance-rain-dove-on-modelling-asia-argento-and-gender-capitalism\|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230325200519/https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/sep/10/every-step-i-take-is-a-defiance-rain-dove-on-modelling-asia-argento-and-gender-capitalism\|archive-date=17 July 2023}}</ref> They have stated "in all reality... I am nothing. Neither a man nor woman. I am a human. I just have specific anatomical capacities that I am satiated with and do not want to change."<ref name="rain_Lett">{{Cite web \|title=Letter to Mens Designers from Someone Without a Penis Who Looks Good in Their Clothes \|first=Rain \|last=Dove \|work=raindovethemodel.blogspot.com \|date=21 August 2015 \|access-date=27 March 2020 \|url= https://raindovethemodel.blogspot.com/2015/08/letter-to-mens-designers-from-someone.html \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20201113232917/http://raindovethemodel.blogspot.com/2015/08/letter-to-mens-designers-from-someone.html \|archive-date=17 July 2023 }}</ref> "I don’t identify as 'male' or 'female' but rather as I am I."<ref>{{cite tweet\|author=Rain Dove\|user=raindovemodel\|number=1179787549121896449\|date=October 3, 2019\|title=I don’t identify as “male” or “female” but rather as I am I. However dating can be a very binary world. So I’ve spent the year conducting various studies about my experiences being perceived on dating apps as male vs female. Here’s some of what I found. #IAmI #lgbtq #genderqueer}}</ref>. However, Dove does not identify as [[transgender]].<ref name="nbcn_Andr">{{Cite web \|title=Androgynous Model Rain Dove Walks the Gender Divide \|last=Compton \|first=Julie \|work=NBC News \|date=18 August 2016 \|access-date=8 April 2020 \|url= https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/outfront-androgynous-model-rain-dove-walks-gender-divide-n632676 \|quote=I am not transgender, but at the same time I get treated like I am. I have a lot of the fear, but the thing I have that backs me up is my ID. I have my breasts. I have my vagina. I can prove [my gender]. I can't identify one 100 percent with [the transgender community’s] struggle… But the violence [they face] really scares me \|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230528070408/https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/outfront-androgynous-model-rain-dove-walks-gender-divide-n632676 \|archive-date=17 July 2023 }}</ref><ref>{{cite tweet\|user=raindovemodel\|author=Rain Dove\|number=1233583749960351744\|title=Lol I’m not trans.\|date=28 February 2020}}</ref>

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	\| pronouns=Any<ref name="Healthyway">{{Cite web \|title=When It Rains, It Roars: A Conversation With Label-Slaying Model Rain Dove \|author= \|work=HealthyWay \|date=18 April 2018 \|access-date=11 June 2020 \|url= https://www.healthyway.com/content/rain-dove-interview-non-binary-model/}}</ref>		\| pronouns=Any<ref name="Healthyway">{{Cite web \|title=When It Rains, It Roars: A Conversation With Label-Slaying Model Rain Dove \|author= \|work=HealthyWay \|date=18 April 2018 \|access-date=11 June 2020 \|url= https://www.healthyway.com/content/rain-dove-interview-non-binary-model/}}</ref>
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	'''Rain Dove''' (born September 27, 1989) is an American model and actor. They use their naturally [[androgynous]] look to model for both men's and women's lines of clothing.		'''Rain Dove''' (born September 27, 1989) is an American model and actor. They use their naturally [[androgynous]] look to model for both men's and women's lines of clothing.

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	* [https://www.facebook.com/raindovemodel Rain Dove on Facebook]		* [https://www.facebook.com/raindovemodel Rain Dove on Facebook]
			* [https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EKgfHc6umRU Rain's "Gender Capitalism" TED Talk]

	==References==		==References==

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	Initially, Dove claimed in interviews and biographies to have studied genetic engineering and civil law at University of California, Berkeley. They also claimed to have worked as a Colorado Firefighter under a male pseudonym, and to have passed as a man during this time, for a period of eleven months.<ref name="buzzfeed">{{Cite news\|url=https://www.buzzfeed.com/skarlan/13-reasons-rain-dove-is-the-androgynous-model-of-your-dreams\|title=13 Reasons Rain Dove Is The Androgynous Model Of Your Dreams\|last=Karlan\|first=Sarah\|work=BuzzFeed\|access-date=26 May 2018}}</ref> However, in late 2019 Dove admitted in a video on NBC News that both of these claims (of having studied genetics and law, and of having been a firefighter) were false.<ref name="Kacala">{{Cite web \|title=Rain Dove admits to selling TMZ incriminating Asia Argento texts \|last=Kacala \|first=Alexander \|work=NBC News \|date=17 December 2019 \|access-date=8 April 2020 \|url= https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/rain-dove-admits-selling-tmz-incriminating-asia-argento-texts-n1103466?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma }}</ref> Dove stated in the video that they wanted, "to just put everything out on the table, everything that I have done or have said that may not be fair or right or may have hurt people".<ref name="Kacala" />		Initially, Dove claimed in interviews and biographies to have studied genetic engineering and civil law at University of California, Berkeley. They also claimed to have worked as a Colorado Firefighter under a male pseudonym, and to have passed as a man during this time, for a period of eleven months.<ref name="buzzfeed">{{Cite news\|url=https://www.buzzfeed.com/skarlan/13-reasons-rain-dove-is-the-androgynous-model-of-your-dreams\|title=13 Reasons Rain Dove Is The Androgynous Model Of Your Dreams\|last=Karlan\|first=Sarah\|work=BuzzFeed\|access-date=26 May 2018}}</ref> However, in late 2019 Dove admitted in a video on NBC News that both of these claims (of having studied genetics and law, and of having been a firefighter) were false.<ref name="Kacala">{{Cite web \|title=Rain Dove admits to selling TMZ incriminating Asia Argento texts \|last=Kacala \|first=Alexander \|work=NBC News \|date=17 December 2019 \|access-date=8 April 2020 \|url= https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/rain-dove-admits-selling-tmz-incriminating-asia-argento-texts-n1103466?cid=sm_npd_nn_tw_ma }}</ref> Dove stated in the video that they wanted, "to just put everything out on the table, everything that I have done or have said that may not be fair or right or may have hurt people".<ref name="Kacala" />

	Dove has called themself "a '[[Agender\|zero gender]]'/'[[Pangender\|all gender]]' model"<ref>{{cite tweet\|user=raindovemodel\|author=Rain Dove\|number=1174676293293658113\|title=Same campaign. First time they have ever had a “zero gender”/“all gender” model. They let me edit the script and approve all wardrobe including a binder. It’s was a collaboration not an exploitation. Finally! Which look so You prefer? #orangevsblue #lgbtq #genderqueer\|date=September 19, 2019}}</ref> and often tweets with the #[[genderqueer]] hashtag. Dove has no pronoun preference: "Use she, he, it, one, they ... I honestly don't care ... All I'm listening for in that sound is positivity."<ref>{{cite web\|last=Cocozza\|first=Paula\|date=10 Sep 2018\|title='Every step I take is a defiance': Rain Dove on modelling, Asia Argento and 'gender capitalism'\|work=The Guardian\|accessdate=8 April 2020\|url=https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/sep/10/every-step-i-take-is-a-defiance-rain-dove-on-modelling-asia-argento-and-gender-capitalism}}</ref> They have stated "in all reality... I am nothing. Neither a man nor woman. I am a human. I just have specific anatomical capacities that I am satiated with and do not want to change."<ref name="rain_Lett">{{Cite web \|title=Letter to Mens Designers from Someone Without a Penis Who Looks Good in Their Clothes \|~~author~~= \|work=raindovethemodel.blogspot.com \|date=21 August 2015 \|access-date=27 March 2020 \|url= https://raindovethemodel.blogspot.com/2015/08/letter-to-mens-designers-from-someone.html }}</ref> "I don’t identify as 'male' or 'female' but rather as I am I."<ref>{{cite tweet\|author=Rain Dove\|user=raindovemodel\|number=1179787549121896449\|date=October 3, 2019\|title=I don’t identify as “male” or “female” but rather as I am I. However dating can be a very binary world. So I’ve spent the year conducting various studies about my experiences being perceived on dating apps as male vs female. Here’s some of what I found. #IAmI #lgbtq #genderqueer}}</ref>.		Dove has called themself "a '[[Agender\|zero gender]]'/'[[Pangender\|all gender]]' model"<ref>{{cite tweet\|user=raindovemodel\|author=Rain Dove\|number=1174676293293658113\|title=Same campaign. First time they have ever had a “zero gender”/“all gender” model. They let me edit the script and approve all wardrobe including a binder. It’s was a collaboration not an exploitation. Finally! Which look so You prefer? #orangevsblue #lgbtq #genderqueer\|date=September 19, 2019}}</ref> and often tweets with the #[[genderqueer]] hashtag. Dove has no pronoun preference: "Use she, he, it, one, they ... I honestly don't care ... All I'm listening for in that sound is positivity."<ref>{{cite web\|last=Cocozza\|first=Paula\|date=10 Sep 2018\|title='Every step I take is a defiance': Rain Dove on modelling, Asia Argento and 'gender capitalism'\|work=The Guardian\|accessdate=8 April 2020\|url=https://www.theguardian.com/fashion/2018/sep/10/every-step-i-take-is-a-defiance-rain-dove-on-modelling-asia-argento-and-gender-capitalism}}</ref> They have stated "in all reality... I am nothing. Neither a man nor woman. I am a human. I just have specific anatomical capacities that I am satiated with and do not want to change."<ref name="rain_Lett">{{Cite web \|title=Letter to Mens Designers from Someone Without a Penis Who Looks Good in Their Clothes \|first=Rain \|last=Dove \|work=raindovethemodel.blogspot.com \|date=21 August 2015 \|access-date=27 March 2020 \|url= https://raindovethemodel.blogspot.com/2015/08/letter-to-mens-designers-from-someone.html }}</ref> "I don’t identify as 'male' or 'female' but rather as I am I."<ref>{{cite tweet\|author=Rain Dove\|user=raindovemodel\|number=1179787549121896449\|date=October 3, 2019\|title=I don’t identify as “male” or “female” but rather as I am I. However dating can be a very binary world. So I’ve spent the year conducting various studies about my experiences being perceived on dating apps as male vs female. Here’s some of what I found. #IAmI #lgbtq #genderqueer}}</ref>. However, Dove does not identify as [[transgender]].<ref name="nbcn_Andr">{{Cite web \|title=Androgynous Model Rain Dove Walks the Gender Divide \|last=Compton \|first=Julie \|work=NBC News \|date=18 August 2016 \|access-date=8 April 2020 \|url= https://www.nbcnews.com/feature/nbc-out/outfront-androgynous-model-rain-dove-walks-gender-divide-n632676 \|quote=I am not transgender, but at the same time I get treated like I am. I have a lot of the fear, but the thing I have that backs me up is my ID. I have my breasts. I have my vagina. I can prove [my gender]. I can't identify one 100 percent with [the transgender community’s] struggle… But the violence [they face] really scares me }}</ref><ref>{{cite tweet\|user=raindovemodel\|author=Rain Dove\|number=1233583749960351744\|title=Lol I’m not trans.\|date=28 February 2020}}</ref>

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