Talk:English neutral pronouns - Revision history

imported>Cassolotl: /* Themself incorrect? */ Grammar note comparing with singular you

2022-09-28T13:36:24Z

Themself incorrect?: Grammar note comparing with singular you

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	: In response to your concerns, I expanded the entry for "they" to include all four versions of its reflexive form (themself, theirself, theirselves, themselves) with dictionary sources cited to demonstrate that each form is commonly used. -[[User:Frameacloud\|Frameacloud]] ([[User talk:Frameacloud\|talk]]) 23:14, 27 June 2015 (CDT)		: In response to your concerns, I expanded the entry for "they" to include all four versions of its reflexive form (themself, theirself, theirselves, themselves) with dictionary sources cited to demonstrate that each form is commonly used. -[[User:Frameacloud\|Frameacloud]] ([[User talk:Frameacloud\|talk]]) 23:14, 27 June 2015 (CDT)

			In English we happily say "You yourself are a painter" - in singular "yourself" is fine and accepted. It'd be consistent for us to use "themself" for an individual, too. --'''[[User:Cassolotl\|<span style="color:#008000">Cassolotl</span>]]''' ''<small>([[User_Talk:Cassolotl\|talk]]) <span style="color:#808080">pronouns: they/them</span></small>'' 13:36, 28 September 2022 (UTC)

	== English pronouns that don't meet notability requirements ==		== English pronouns that don't meet notability requirements ==

2022-08-07T22:43:27Z

potential "see also" links: new section

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	:Thanks for the feedback! Most (if not all) pronouns have example sentences with the pronoun used in all cases (and highlighted in Italics). If you want the form only, without examples, feel free to hop on the [https://data.nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Main_Page NBDb] (Nonbinary Database) and look up any pronoun, it contains short data on many of them, including cases.--[[User:Ondo\|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo\|talk]]) 20:56, 9 April 2020 (UTC)		:Thanks for the feedback! Most (if not all) pronouns have example sentences with the pronoun used in all cases (and highlighted in Italics). If you want the form only, without examples, feel free to hop on the [https://data.nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Main_Page NBDb] (Nonbinary Database) and look up any pronoun, it contains short data on many of them, including cases.--[[User:Ondo\|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo\|talk]]) 20:56, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

			== potential "see also" links ==

			https://www.hrc.org/resources/understanding-neopronouns - good initial resource for people

			https://homosaurus.org/v2/neopronouns - though we have the nbdb? pretty sure we've talked to this site about collabs toy [[User:Amazingakita\|Amazingakita]] ([[User talk:Amazingakita\|talk]]) 22:43, 7 August 2022 (UTC)

2020-11-20T22:33:52Z

Fix date and title of Lupoff story.

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	'''se, hir, hir, hirs, hirself'''. In Richard Lupoff's short science fiction story "With the Bentfin Boomer Boys on Little ~~Ol'~~ New Alabama" (~~1977?~~), Lupoff used these pronouns for an entity comprised of a female extraterrestrial being inhabiting a dead male human body.<ref>Dog Friendly, "Origin of 'hir' - gender neutral pronoun? " February 7, 2007. ''Snopes forum.'' [http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=3032 http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=3032]</ref> In 1992, this set of gender-neutral pronouns was commonly used on the Internet in newsgroups such as alt.sex.bondage.<ref name="d baron epicene"></ref>		'''se, hir, hir, hirs, hirself'''. In Richard Lupoff's short science fiction story "With the Bentfin Boomer Boys on Little Old New Alabama" (1972), Lupoff used these pronouns for an entity comprised of a female extraterrestrial being inhabiting a dead male human body.<ref>Dog Friendly, "Origin of 'hir' - gender neutral pronoun? " February 7, 2007. ''Snopes forum.'' [http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=3032 http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=3032]</ref> In 1992, this set of gender-neutral pronouns was commonly used on the Internet in newsgroups such as alt.sex.bondage.<ref name="d baron epicene"></ref>

	'''Forms:'''		'''Forms:'''

2020-10-11T01:24:18Z

Moving some pronouns from the main page to the talk page.

2020-04-09T20:57:43Z

Incomplete or uncited English pronouns: adding ref list to this section to avoid confusion

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	'''Why this was moved to the talk page:''' Incomplete. Not entered in the Nonbinary Stats survey in 2016.<ref name=NBGQ2016></ref>		'''Why this was moved to the talk page:''' Incomplete. Not entered in the Nonbinary Stats survey in 2016.<ref name=NBGQ2016></ref>

			===References===
			<references/>

	== case forms ==		== case forms ==

2020-04-09T20:56:43Z

case forms

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	Could detail please be provided on the case forms of all of these words? A chart with both possesives, the subject and object, as well as the reflexive forms woud be very nice.		Could detail please be provided on the case forms of all of these words? A chart with both possesives, the subject and object, as well as the reflexive forms woud be very nice.

			:Thanks for the feedback! Most (if not all) pronouns have example sentences with the pronoun used in all cases (and highlighted in Italics). If you want the form only, without examples, feel free to hop on the [https://data.nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Main_Page NBDb] (Nonbinary Database) and look up any pronoun, it contains short data on many of them, including cases.--[[User:Ondo\|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo\|talk]]) 20:56, 9 April 2020 (UTC)

2020-04-09T20:28:47Z

case forms: new section

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	'''Why this was moved to the talk page:''' Incomplete. Not entered in the Nonbinary Stats survey in 2016.<ref name=NBGQ2016></ref>		'''Why this was moved to the talk page:''' Incomplete. Not entered in the Nonbinary Stats survey in 2016.<ref name=NBGQ2016></ref>

			== case forms ==

			Could detail please be provided on the case forms of all of these words? A chart with both possesives, the subject and object, as well as the reflexive forms woud be very nice.

2019-02-22T07:15:44Z

Imported the Discussion page for this article from the old Nonbinary Wiki, from my private archive dated November 5, 2016.