Talk:Qirl - Revision history

imported>Sekhet at 15:52, 24 July 2020

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	Can we have a pronunciation guide for this word?		Can we have a pronunciation guide for this word?
	:I assume it's pronounced like ''girl'' but with a ''k'' sound instead of the ''g''("''Kirl''"). Cheers. --[[User:NeoMahler\|NeoMahler]] ([[User talk:NeoMahler\|talk]]) 19:04, 26 June 2018 (UTC)		:I assume it's pronounced like ''girl'' but with a ''k'' sound instead of the ''g''("''Kirl''"). Cheers. --[[User:NeoMahler\|NeoMahler]] ([[User talk:NeoMahler\|talk]]) 19:04, 26 June 2018 (UTC)
			::That is speculation. We do not have any sources that say how people who identify as qirls pronounce the word. --[[User:Sekhet\|Sekhet]] ([[User talk:Sekhet\|talk]])

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	I did find some evidence of this identity being used by people other than the coiner: https://ask-pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/post/157464592584/so-i-guess-just-to-make-sure-you-know-im-black ("So I guess just to make sure you know, I’m black, I ID as Qirl, and I have friends who identify as Qirl, Boi, or both.") --[[User:TXJ\|TXJ]] ([[User talk:TXJ\|talk]]) 15:36, 21 July 2020 (UTC)		I did find some evidence of this identity being used by people other than the coiner: https://ask-pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/post/157464592584/so-i-guess-just-to-make-sure-you-know-im-black ("So I guess just to make sure you know, I’m black, I ID as Qirl, and I have friends who identify as Qirl, Boi, or both.") --[[User:TXJ\|TXJ]] ([[User talk:TXJ\|talk]]) 15:36, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
	:Although it still doesn't meet the new [[Nonbinary Wiki:Content policy]] --[[User:TXJ\|TXJ]] ([[User talk:TXJ\|talk]]) 12:47, 24 July 2020 (UTC)		:Although it still doesn't meet the new [[Nonbinary Wiki:Content policy]] --[[User:TXJ\|TXJ]] ([[User talk:TXJ\|talk]]) 12:47, 24 July 2020 (UTC)
			::That's true, that still doesn't meet the new policy. It looks like that post was submitted by the personal blog "BoiQirl," a blog which has since been deleted, and is not available on Archive.org, so we don't know if that was a sideblog run by the term's coiner or somebody else. The personal blog of the person who originally coined it, Vmerli, has also been deleted. Since both blogs are gone, that gives us fewer leads in finding good enough evidence of use of this term. If only it had been submitted to a Gender Census. I haven't checked for it in every year's census yet, just in 2016 and 2019. --[[User:Sekhet\|Sekhet]] ([[User talk:Sekhet\|talk]])

imported>TXJ at 12:47, 24 July 2020

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	I did find some evidence of this identity being used by people other than the coiner: https://ask-pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/post/157464592584/so-i-guess-just-to-make-sure-you-know-im-black ("So I guess just to make sure you know, I’m black, I ID as Qirl, and I have friends who identify as Qirl, Boi, or both.") --[[User:TXJ\|TXJ]] ([[User talk:TXJ\|talk]]) 15:36, 21 July 2020 (UTC)		I did find some evidence of this identity being used by people other than the coiner: https://ask-pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/post/157464592584/so-i-guess-just-to-make-sure-you-know-im-black ("So I guess just to make sure you know, I’m black, I ID as Qirl, and I have friends who identify as Qirl, Boi, or both.") --[[User:TXJ\|TXJ]] ([[User talk:TXJ\|talk]]) 15:36, 21 July 2020 (UTC)
			:Although it still doesn't meet the new [[Nonbinary Wiki:Content policy]] --[[User:TXJ\|TXJ]] ([[User talk:TXJ\|talk]]) 12:47, 24 July 2020 (UTC)

imported>TXJ: /* Re: proposed deletion */ new section

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Re: proposed deletion: new section

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	Can we have a pronunciation guide for this word?		Can we have a pronunciation guide for this word?
	:I assume it's pronounced like ''girl'' but with a ''k'' sound instead of the ''g''("''Kirl''"). Cheers. --[[User:NeoMahler\|NeoMahler]] ([[User talk:NeoMahler\|talk]]) 19:04, 26 June 2018 (UTC)		:I assume it's pronounced like ''girl'' but with a ''k'' sound instead of the ''g''("''Kirl''"). Cheers. --[[User:NeoMahler\|NeoMahler]] ([[User talk:NeoMahler\|talk]]) 19:04, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

			== Re: proposed deletion ==

			I did find some evidence of this identity being used by people other than the coiner: https://ask-pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/post/157464592584/so-i-guess-just-to-make-sure-you-know-im-black ("So I guess just to make sure you know, I’m black, I ID as Qirl, and I have friends who identify as Qirl, Boi, or both.") --[[User:TXJ\|TXJ]] ([[User talk:TXJ\|talk]]) 15:36, 21 July 2020 (UTC)

Ondo at 19:04, 26 June 2018

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	Can we have a pronunciation guide for this word?		Can we have a pronunciation guide for this word?
			:I assume it's pronounced like ''girl'' but with a ''k'' sound instead of the ''g''("''Kirl''"). Cheers. --[[User:NeoMahler\|NeoMahler]] ([[User talk:NeoMahler\|talk]]) 19:04, 26 June 2018 (UTC)

71.191.222.177: Asking for pronunciation help.

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Asking for pronunciation help.

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	:{{ping\|Otvm}} this is one of the "grey areas" of acceptance... if the article exists (and it has a link to an external page), it means that somebody uses it. Maybe it doesn't "deserve" its own article, what about putting its content inside a sub-section of [[demigirl]]? --[[User:NeoMahler\|NeoMahler]] ([[User talk:NeoMahler\|talk]]) 17:30, 6 November 2017 (UTC)		:{{ping\|Otvm}} this is one of the "grey areas" of acceptance... if the article exists (and it has a link to an external page), it means that somebody uses it. Maybe it doesn't "deserve" its own article, what about putting its content inside a sub-section of [[demigirl]]? --[[User:NeoMahler\|NeoMahler]] ([[User talk:NeoMahler\|talk]]) 17:30, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
	:: I would be careful about policing cultural specific identities without input from people who are closely associated with this identity. I don't see harm in keeping the article, and I can see the potential for harm in removing or merging it into a article for a non-cultural specific (ie: western) gender. [[User:Falkirks\|Falkirks]] ([[User_talk:Falkirks\|talk]]) 04:25, 13 November 2017 (UTC)		:: I would be careful about policing cultural specific identities without input from people who are closely associated with this identity. I don't see harm in keeping the article, and I can see the potential for harm in removing or merging it into a article for a non-cultural specific (ie: western) gender. [[User:Falkirks\|Falkirks]] ([[User_talk:Falkirks\|talk]]) 04:25, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

			Can we have a pronunciation guide for this word?

Falkirks at 04:25, 13 November 2017

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	:{{ping\|Otvm}} this is one of the "grey areas" of acceptance... if the article exists (and it has a link to an external page), it means that somebody uses it. Maybe it doesn't "deserve" its own article, what about putting its content inside a sub-section of [[demigirl]]? --[[User:NeoMahler\|NeoMahler]] ([[User talk:NeoMahler\|talk]]) 17:30, 6 November 2017 (UTC)		:{{ping\|Otvm}} this is one of the "grey areas" of acceptance... if the article exists (and it has a link to an external page), it means that somebody uses it. Maybe it doesn't "deserve" its own article, what about putting its content inside a sub-section of [[demigirl]]? --[[User:NeoMahler\|NeoMahler]] ([[User talk:NeoMahler\|talk]]) 17:30, 6 November 2017 (UTC)
			:: I would be careful about policing cultural specific identities without input from people who are closely associated with this identity. I don't see harm in keeping the article, and I can see the potential for harm in removing or merging it into a article for a non-cultural specific (ie: western) gender. [[User:Falkirks\|Falkirks]] ([[User_talk:Falkirks\|talk]]) 04:25, 13 November 2017 (UTC)

Ondo at 17:30, 6 November 2017

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	* Why do we need to bring race into gender identity?		* Why do we need to bring race into gender identity?
	--[[User:Otvm\|Otvm]] ([[User talk:Otvm\|talk]]) 23:49, 5 November 2017 (UTC)		--[[User:Otvm\|Otvm]] ([[User talk:Otvm\|talk]]) 23:49, 5 November 2017 (UTC)

			:{{ping\|Otvm}} this is one of the "grey areas" of acceptance... if the article exists (and it has a link to an external page), it means that somebody uses it. Maybe it doesn't "deserve" its own article, what about putting its content inside a sub-section of [[demigirl]]? --[[User:NeoMahler\|NeoMahler]] ([[User talk:NeoMahler\|talk]]) 17:30, 6 November 2017 (UTC)

imported>Otvm: Created page with "* Is there any difference between this and demigirl? * Why do we need to bring race into gender identity? --~~~~"

2017-11-05T23:49:29Z

Created page with "* Is there any difference between this and demigirl? * Why do we need to bring race into gender identity? --~~~~"

New page

* Is there any difference between this and [[demigirl]]?
* Why do we need to bring race into gender identity?
--[[User:Otvm|Otvm]] ([[User talk:Otvm|talk]]) 23:49, 5 November 2017 (UTC)