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Does anyone have any feelings on a popularity threshold for these? The list is short so it's not a huge deal, but on the old wiki we required evidence that words were used by more than a small handful of people in order to list them, especially on the pronouns pages. Maybe it's something to discuss in case the title list here gets much longer? --'''[[User:Cassolotl|<span style="color:#008000">Cassolotl</span>]]''' ''<small>([[User_Talk:Cassolotl|talk]]) <span style="color:#808080">pronouns: they/them</span></small>'' 14:02, 19 August 2017 (UTC) | Does anyone have any feelings on a popularity threshold for these? The list is short so it's not a huge deal, but on the old wiki we required evidence that words were used by more than a small handful of people in order to list them, especially on the pronouns pages. Maybe it's something to discuss in case the title list here gets much longer? --'''[[User:Cassolotl|<span style="color:#008000">Cassolotl</span>]]''' ''<small>([[User_Talk:Cassolotl|talk]]) <span style="color:#808080">pronouns: they/them</span></small>'' 14:02, 19 August 2017 (UTC) | ||
== Where did "Tiz" derive from and why isn't it "Zen" == | == Where did "Tiz" derive from and why isn't it "Zen"? == | ||
Citizen is usually pronounced "sit uh zuhn". | Citizen is usually pronounced "sit uh zuhn". | ||
"Zen" already has a definition but "zun" or even "zin" are more open. | "Zen" already has a definition but "zun" or even "zin" are more open. | ||
I would much appreciate being referred to as "Zin Smith". It has a formal and pleasant sound to it but some people have shortened Zinfadel wines to Zins (that meaning is collapsed among very few wine drinker and can be pushed back against). I could easily get used to hearing "Zun Smith" or just "Zun" when being greeted. It could be a neutral verion "hun" and still derive from citizen. [[Special:Contributions/174.86.237.161|174.86.237.161]] 10:04, 19 August 2021 (UTC) | I would much appreciate being referred to as "Zin Smith". It has a formal and pleasant sound to it but some people have shortened Zinfadel wines to Zins (that meaning is collapsed among very few wine drinker and can be pushed back against). I could easily get used to hearing "Zun Smith" or just "Zun" when being greeted. It could be a neutral verion "hun" and still derive from citizen. [[Special:Contributions/174.86.237.161|174.86.237.161]] 10:04, 19 August 2021 (UTC) | ||
:hey! we don't coin terms here, however I can see tiz has been in use since before 2016 (more research ongoing). it seems to have been invented as a replacement for sir/ma'am (e.g. hello sir/ma'am/tiz), and I imagine the reason it isn't zen is because - as you state - zen already has a definition. or because the person proposing it liked tiz more. i can't give more concrete information right now, but if you find anything in your own searching, please share it with us! | |||
: - [[User:Amazingakita|Amazingakita]] ([[User talk:Amazingakita|talk]]) 12:38, 19 August 2021 (UTC) | |||
== "or if the gender is currently unknown." == | |||
do people use neutral titles if a gender is unknown, or do they just leave it out? yes, no title is a section here, but for the titles that are actual titles, are they used when a gender isn't known? [[User:Amazingakita|Amazingakita]] ([[User talk:Amazingakita|talk]]) 16:26, 31 August 2022 (UTC) | |||