Talk:English neutral pronouns: Difference between revisions

→‎Themself incorrect?: Grammar note comparing with singular you
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: In response to your concerns, I expanded the entry for "they" to include all four versions of its reflexive form (themself, theirself, theirselves, themselves) with dictionary sources cited to demonstrate that each form is commonly used. -[[User:Frameacloud|Frameacloud]] ([[User talk:Frameacloud|talk]]) 23:14, 27 June 2015 (CDT)
: In response to your concerns, I expanded the entry for "they" to include all four versions of its reflexive form (themself, theirself, theirselves, themselves) with dictionary sources cited to demonstrate that each form is commonly used. -[[User:Frameacloud|Frameacloud]] ([[User talk:Frameacloud|talk]]) 23:14, 27 June 2015 (CDT)
In English we happily say "You yourself are a painter" - in singular "yourself" is fine and accepted. It'd be consistent for us to use "themself" for an individual, too. --'''[[User:Cassolotl|<span style="color:#008000">Cassolotl</span>]]''' ''<small>([[User_Talk:Cassolotl|talk]]) <span style="color:#808080">pronouns: they/them</span></small>'' 13:36, 28 September 2022 (UTC)


== English pronouns that don't meet notability requirements ==
== English pronouns that don't meet notability requirements ==
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'''se, hir, hir, hirs, hirself'''. In Richard Lupoff's short science fiction story "With the Bentfin Boomer Boys on Little Ol' New Alabama" (1977?), Lupoff used these pronouns for an entity comprised of a female extraterrestrial being inhabiting a dead male human body.<ref>Dog Friendly, "Origin of 'hir' - gender neutral pronoun? " February 7, 2007. ''Snopes forum.'' [http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=3032 http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=3032]</ref> In 1992, this set of gender-neutral pronouns was commonly used on the Internet in newsgroups such as alt.sex.bondage.<ref name="d baron epicene"></ref>
'''se, hir, hir, hirs, hirself'''. In Richard Lupoff's short science fiction story "With the Bentfin Boomer Boys on Little Old New Alabama" (1972), Lupoff used these pronouns for an entity comprised of a female extraterrestrial being inhabiting a dead male human body.<ref>Dog Friendly, "Origin of 'hir' - gender neutral pronoun? " February 7, 2007. ''Snopes forum.'' [http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=3032 http://message.snopes.com/showthread.php?t=3032]</ref> In 1992, this set of gender-neutral pronouns was commonly used on the Internet in newsgroups such as alt.sex.bondage.<ref name="d baron epicene"></ref>


'''Forms:'''
'''Forms:'''
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:Thanks for the feedback! Most (if not all) pronouns have example sentences with the pronoun used in all cases (and highlighted in Italics). If you want the form only, without examples, feel free to hop on the [https://data.nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Main_Page NBDb] (Nonbinary Database) and look up any pronoun, it contains short data on many of them, including cases.--[[User:Ondo|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo|talk]]) 20:56, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
:Thanks for the feedback! Most (if not all) pronouns have example sentences with the pronoun used in all cases (and highlighted in Italics). If you want the form only, without examples, feel free to hop on the [https://data.nonbinary.wiki/wiki/Main_Page NBDb] (Nonbinary Database) and look up any pronoun, it contains short data on many of them, including cases.--[[User:Ondo|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo|talk]]) 20:56, 9 April 2020 (UTC)
== potential "see also" links ==
https://www.hrc.org/resources/understanding-neopronouns - good initial resource for people
https://homosaurus.org/v2/neopronouns - though we have the nbdb? pretty sure we've talked to this site about collabs toy [[User:Amazingakita|Amazingakita]] ([[User talk:Amazingakita|talk]]) 22:43, 7 August 2022 (UTC)
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