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'''Neutrois''' is an identity under the [[nonbinary]] and [[transgender]] umbrellas. Generally speaking, neutrois is a [[transsexual]] identity, meaning that it involves [[gender dysphoria]] and a desire to make a physical [[transition]] to a [[gender neutral]] presentation. However, as a result of the diversity of people who identify as neutrois, some of them say they don't have one or more of those traits, and are no less neutrois for it. What is agreed upon is that neutrois is a nonbinary gender identity, and that people of any [[Assigned gender at birth|gender assigned at birth]] can have this identity.<ref>Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. "What are neutrois?" ''Neutrois Outpost.'' Last updated November 11, 2000. Retrieved March 2, 2001. [http://web.archive.org/web/20010302160052/http://www.neutrois.com/defin.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20010302160052/http://www.neutrois.com/defin.htm]</ref> A person of any [[ethnicity and culture|cultural or ethnic background]] can call [[singular they|themself]] neutrois, and a neutrois person may use any [[pronouns]] they like.
'''Neutrois''' is an identity under the [[nonbinary]] and [[transgender]] umbrellas. Generally speaking, neutrois is a [[transsexual]] identity, meaning that it involves [[gender dysphoria]] and a desire to make a physical [[transition]] to a [[gender neutral]] presentation. However, as a result of the diversity of people who identify as neutrois, some of them say they don't have one or more of those traits, and are no less neutrois for it. What is agreed upon is that neutrois is a nonbinary gender identity, and that people of any [[Assigned gender at birth|gender assigned at birth]] can have this identity.<ref name="Outpost-WhatareNeutrois">{{cite web|editors=Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel|title=What are neutrois?|work=Neutrois Outpost|date=11 November 2000|archive-date=2 March 2001| archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20010302160052/http://www.neutrois.com/defin.htm |url=http://www.neutrois.com/defin.htm}}</ref> A person of any [[ethnicity and culture|cultural or ethnic background]] can call [[singular they|themself]] neutrois, and a neutrois person may use any [[pronouns]] they like.


==Etymology==
==Etymology==


The word "neutrois" was created by a neutrois person named H. A. Burnham in 1995.<ref>Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. “FAQ.” ''Neutrois Outpost''. Last updated 2000-11-23. Retrieved 2001-03-07. [http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm]</ref> The word "neutrois" is presumably made from French ''neutre'', meaning "neutral" or "neuter," and French ''trois,'' "three," as in [[third gender]]. Because French ''trois'' has sounds that are difficult to Anglicize, some pronunciations of neutrois in use are new-TWA,<ref name="Conlan">{{Cite web |title=Red: "Non-Binary" Person Rejects Male/Female Gender Duality |last=Conlan |first=Mark Gabrish |work=Indybay |date=17 July 2011 |access-date=7 May 2020 |url= https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/07/17/18685039.php }}</ref> new-TRAW, new-TROY, new-TROYS, new-TROSS, new-TROZ, or new-TROYZ.<ref name="Cottle">{{Cite web |title=Hallelujah, it’s raining labels |author=Cottle, J.M. |work=jmcottle.com |date=16 July 2011 |access-date=7 May 2020 |url= https://jmcottle.com/hallelujah-its-raining-labels/}}</ref>
The word "neutrois" was created by a neutrois person named H. A. Burnham in 1995.<ref name="Outpost-FAQ">{{cite web|editors=Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel|title=Frequently Asked Questions|work=Neutrois Outpost|date=23 November 2000 |url=http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm|archive-url=http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm |archive-date=7 March 2001}}</ref> The word "neutrois" is presumably made from French ''neutre'', meaning "neutral" or "neuter," and French ''trois,'' "three," as in [[third gender]]. Because French ''trois'' has sounds that are difficult to Anglicize, some pronunciations of neutrois in use are new-TWA,<ref name="Conlan">{{Cite web |title=Red: "Non-Binary" Person Rejects Male/Female Gender Duality |last=Conlan |first=Mark Gabrish |work=Indybay |date=17 July 2011 |access-date=7 May 2020 |url= https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/07/17/18685039.php }}</ref> new-TRAW, new-TROY, new-TROYS, new-TROSS, new-TROZ, or new-TROYZ.<ref name="Cottle">{{Cite web |title=Hallelujah, it’s raining labels |author=Cottle, J.M. |work=jmcottle.com |date=16 July 2011 |access-date=7 May 2020 |url= https://jmcottle.com/hallelujah-its-raining-labels/}}</ref>


==History==
==History==


In 1995, the word "neutrois" was created by a neutrois person named H. A. Burnham, who described it in public posts to Internet newsgroups for transgender people.<ref>Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. “FAQ.” ''Neutrois Outpost''. Last updated 2000-11-23. Retrieved 2001-03-07. [http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm]</ref>
In 1995, the word "neutrois" was created by a neutrois person named H. A. Burnham, who described it in public posts to Internet newsgroups for transgender people.<ref name="Outpost-FAQ" />


The 2013 text ''Sexuality and Gender for Mental Health Professionals: A Practical Guide'' mentioned neutrois as one of many valid nonbinary identities.<ref>{{cite book|isbn=9781446293133|title=Sexuality and Gender for Mental Health Professionals: A Practical Guide|last1=Richards|first1=Christina|last2=Barker|first2=Meg|year=2013|publisher=SAGE Publications}}</ref>
The 2013 text ''Sexuality and Gender for Mental Health Professionals: A Practical Guide'' mentioned neutrois as one of many valid nonbinary identities.<ref>{{cite book|isbn=9781446293133|title=Sexuality and Gender for Mental Health Professionals: A Practical Guide|last1=Richards|first1=Christina|last2=Barker|first2=Meg|year=2013|publisher=SAGE Publications}}</ref>
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==Transition==
==Transition==


In 2000, the site ''Neutrois Outpost'' defined neutrois as a transsexual nonbinary identity: "A Neutrois is someone who identifies as being non-gendered and seeks to lose the major physical signifiers that indicate gender to others (breasts, facial and body hair, crotch bulges, etc). Neutrois are not androgynes, but do pursue an androgynous appearance. They are uniquely bound by their gender dysphoria in that they find both male and female orientations wrong. Because of this, transitioning from an assigned gender, to either male, or female identities is not an acceptable solution. [...] Neutrois are trying to lose gender traits, not gain new ones."<ref>Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. "What are neutrois?" ''Neutrois Outpost.'' Last updated November 11, 2000. Retrieved March 2, 2001. [http://web.archive.org/web/20010302160052/http://www.neutrois.com/defin.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20010302160052/http://www.neutrois.com/defin.htm]</ref>
In 2000, the site ''Neutrois Outpost'' defined neutrois as a transsexual nonbinary identity: "A Neutrois is someone who identifies as being non-gendered and seeks to lose the major physical signifiers that indicate gender to others (breasts, facial and body hair, crotch bulges, etc). Neutrois are not androgynes, but do pursue an androgynous appearance. They are uniquely bound by their gender dysphoria in that they find both male and female orientations wrong. Because of this, transitioning from an assigned gender, to either male, or female identities is not an acceptable solution. [...] Neutrois are trying to lose gender traits, not gain new ones."<ref name="Outpost-WhatareNeutrois" />


Similarly, Micah of ''Neutrois Nonsense'' defines neutrois as a transsexual identity that moves away from familiar gender markers: "Transition is a process of subtraction: a neutrois wishes to get rid of any and all gendered characteristics so as to achieve as neutral a body as possible. Physical transition may consist primarily in the removal of primary and/or secondary sex characteristics, such as genitals or breasts and body hair. Because the concept and identity of neutrois is relatively new, not all neutrois have undergone surgery, or even seriously want to undergo surgery or physical transition yet."<ref>Micah. "Define." ''Neutrois Nonsense.'' [http://neutrois.me/neutrois/ http://neutrois.me/neutrois/]</ref>
Similarly, Micah of ''Neutrois Nonsense'' defines neutrois as a transsexual identity that moves away from familiar gender markers: "Transition is a process of subtraction: a neutrois wishes to get rid of any and all gendered characteristics so as to achieve as neutral a body as possible. Physical transition may consist primarily in the removal of primary and/or secondary sex characteristics, such as genitals or breasts and body hair. Because the concept and identity of neutrois is relatively new, not all neutrois have undergone surgery, or even seriously want to undergo surgery or physical transition yet."<ref>Micah. "Define." ''Neutrois Nonsense.'' [http://neutrois.me/neutrois/ http://neutrois.me/neutrois/]</ref>


Neutrois people can have had any gender assigned at birth. As such, some neutrois transition in a direction that is female-to-neutrois (FTN), and others are male-to-neutrois (MTN).<ref>Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. "What are neutrois?" ''Neutrois Outpost.'' Last updated November 11, 2000. Retrieved March 2, 2001. [http://web.archive.org/web/20010302160052/http://www.neutrois.com/defin.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20010302160052/http://www.neutrois.com/defin.htm]</ref> A self-described FTN neutrois person can be seen using these terms in a newsgroup post in 1997, while talking about their gender dysphoria and their physical transition plans.<ref>Auden, "Comments on the group." January 17, 1997. soc.support.transgendered (newsgroup). [https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.support.transgendered/swaXjZvCHt0/glmUrjGYIqMJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.support.transgendered/swaXjZvCHt0/glmUrjGYIqMJ]</ref>
Neutrois people can have had any gender assigned at birth. As such, some neutrois transition in a direction that is female-to-neutrois (FTN), and others are male-to-neutrois (MTN).<ref name="Outpost-WhatareNeutrois" /> A self-described FTN neutrois person can be seen using these terms in a newsgroup post in 1997, while talking about their gender dysphoria and their physical transition plans.<ref>Auden, "Comments on the group." January 17, 1997. soc.support.transgendered (newsgroup). [https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.support.transgendered/swaXjZvCHt0/glmUrjGYIqMJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.support.transgendered/swaXjZvCHt0/glmUrjGYIqMJ]</ref>


==Other uses of neutrois==
==Other uses of neutrois==
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==Similar genders==
==Similar genders==


According to ''Neutrois Outpost'', neutrois isn't another word for [[androgyne]], and the difference between neutrois people and androgynes is gender dysphoria: "While Neutrois seek an androgynous appearance, androgynes aren't Neutrois because being Neutrois involves gender dysphoria. Androgynes don't necessarily have any difficulties with their gender identities."<ref>Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. “FAQ.” ''Neutrois Outpost''. Last updated 2000-11-23. Retrieved 2001-03-07. [http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm]</ref> The origin of the word [[androgyne]] means "male-female," such as a person who is a mix of male and female. For this reason, some neutrois people don't want to also be called androgynes, because their gender identity is an ''absence'' of male and female, not a mix of ''both'' male and female. ''Neutrois Nonsense'' says, "Neutrois is not androgyne, it’s quite the opposite. Androgyny is a combination of female and male characteristics, while neutrois is an elimination of them."<ref>Micah. "Define." ''Neutrois Nonsense.'' [http://neutrois.me/neutrois/ http://neutrois.me/neutrois/]</ref>
According to ''Neutrois Outpost'', neutrois isn't another word for [[androgyne]], and the difference between neutrois people and androgynes is gender dysphoria: "While Neutrois seek an androgynous appearance, androgynes aren't Neutrois because being Neutrois involves [[gender dysphoria]]. Androgynes don't necessarily have any difficulties with their gender identities."<ref name="Outpost-FAQ" /> The origin of the word [[androgyne]] means "male-female," such as a person who is a mix of male and female. For this reason, some neutrois people don't want to also be called androgynes, because their gender identity is an ''absence'' of male and female, not a mix of ''both'' male and female. ''Neutrois Nonsense'' says, "Neutrois is not androgyne, it’s quite the opposite. Androgyny is a combination of female and male characteristics, while neutrois is an elimination of them."<ref>Micah. "Define." ''Neutrois Nonsense.'' [http://neutrois.me/neutrois/ http://neutrois.me/neutrois/]</ref>


While these are only some definitions for androgyne, which itself has many meanings that are not agreed upon, this still highlights that people adopt the word "neutrois" for themselves because they feel the word "androgyne" has meanings that don't suit them.
While these are only some definitions for androgyne, which itself has many meanings that are not agreed upon, this still highlights that people adopt the word "neutrois" for themselves because they feel the word "androgyne" has meanings that don't suit them.
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File:Gender-Symbol Neutrois Alternative dark transparent Background.png|A neutrois or [[neuter]] [[gender symbols|gender symbol]], Unicode U+26B2 ⚲
File:Gender-Symbol Neutrois Alternative dark transparent Background.png|A neutrois or [[neuter]] [[gender symbols|gender symbol]], Unicode U+26B2 ⚲
File:Neutrois Outpost symbol.jpg|Neutrois gender symbol. The circles represent a null gender, a variation on Venus and Mars symbols. The additional lavender triangle is for pride in [[LGBT]] identity.<ref>Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. “FAQ.” ''Neutrois Outpost''. Last updated 2000-11-23. Retrieved 2001-03-07. [http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm]</ref>
File:Neutrois Outpost symbol.jpg|Neutrois gender symbol. The circles represent a null gender, a variation on Venus and Mars symbols. The additional lavender triangle is for pride in [[LGBT]] identity.<ref name="Outpost-FAQ" />
File:Neutrois_null_symbol.png‎|A neutrois symbol. Can be seen as a variation on the Venus and Mars symbols that omits the prongs of either. Null or empty set symbol, unicode U+2205 ∅
File:Neutrois_null_symbol.png‎|A neutrois symbol. Can be seen as a variation on the Venus and Mars symbols that omits the prongs of either. Null or empty set symbol, unicode U+2205 ∅
File:Gender-Symbol Neutrois dark transparent Background.png|A neutrois or neuter symbol. Based on Venus and Mars symbols, without prongs. Unicode U+26AA ⚪
File:Gender-Symbol Neutrois dark transparent Background.png|A neutrois or neuter symbol. Based on Venus and Mars symbols, without prongs. Unicode U+26AA ⚪
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* The protagonist of the comic [https://beesbuzz.biz/comics/unity Unity] by fluffy is called "neutrois" in the canon.
* The protagonist of the comic [https://beesbuzz.biz/comics/unity Unity] by fluffy is called "neutrois" in the canon.
* In a short sci-fi story by Benjanun Sriduangkaew, "[http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/sriduangkaew_12_13/ Silent Bridge, Pale Cascade]" (2013), one of the characters is described as a "[[neutrois]]," and called by "they" pronouns.<ref>Alex Dally MacFarlane, "Post-Binary Gender in SF: ExcitoTech and Non-Binary Pronouns." June 3, 2014. ''Tor.'' [http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/06/post-binary-gender-in-sf-excitotech-and-non-binary-pronouns http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/06/post-binary-gender-in-sf-excitotech-and-non-binary-pronouns]</ref><ref>Benjanun Sriduangkaew, "Silent Bridge, Pale Cascade." ''Clarkesworld Magazine.'' 2013. [http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/sriduangkaew_12_13/ http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/sriduangkaew_12_13/]</ref>
* In a short sci-fi story by Benjanun Sriduangkaew, "[http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/sriduangkaew_12_13/ Silent Bridge, Pale Cascade]" (2013), one of the characters is described as a "[[neutrois]]," and called by "they" pronouns.<ref name="MacFarlane">{{Cite web |title=Post-Binary Gender in SF: ExcitoTech and Non-Binary Pronouns |last=MacFarlane |first=Alex Dally |work=Tor.com |date=3 June 2014 |access-date=12 May 2021 |url= https://www.tor.com/2014/06/03/post-binary-gender-in-sf-excitotech-and-non-binary-pronouns/}}</ref><ref name="Sriduangkaew">{{Cite web |title=Silent Bridge, Pale Cascade |last=Sriduangkaew |first=Benjanun |work=Clarkesworld Magazine |date=December 2013 |access-date=12 May 2021 |url= http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/sriduangkaew_12_13/}}</ref>


==External links==
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