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: Thanks for asking about this. I've been thinking I should write about my emerging methodology for this project. Originally, I used to include every neutral name I could find, because I wanted it to be comprehensive. Then the name list got so long that I couldn't see how I could complete the project, and I was finding that it included a lot of names that sources said were neutral names, but which turned out not to be really used as neutral names. Lately, I've been instead limiting the scope of the name lists by only including those names where I can find statistics or other evidence showing that they have been used as neutral names, whether currently, or historically. I've been removing names if the statistics show they are used as feminine 90% of the time or more, or masculine 90% of the time or more (unless if there is evidence that the names used to be more neutral at a different point in history), or where I could not find statistics proving the name's gender distribution really is neutral, even though there are sources saying they are neutral names. (Cyan was one of the names where I did not find gender distribution stats about it, only sources claiming that it was neutral.) Limiting the scope like this helps make the project more manageable in size, and makes it so we can be sure that the names really are used as neutral names. On the other hand, sometimes I feel disappointed about having to omit a lot of wonderful names just because I couldn't find evidence that satisfied my rules for what to include. --[[User:Sekhet|Sekhet]] ([[User talk:Sekhet|talk]]) 00:11, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
: Thanks for asking about this. I've been thinking I should write about my emerging methodology for this project. Originally, I used to include every neutral name I could find, because I wanted it to be comprehensive. Then the name list got so long that I couldn't see how I could complete the project, and I was finding that it included a lot of names that sources said were neutral names, but which turned out not to be really used as neutral names. Lately, I've been instead limiting the scope of the name lists by only including those names where I can find statistics or other evidence showing that they have been used as neutral names, whether currently, or historically. I've been removing names if the statistics show they are used as feminine 90% of the time or more, or masculine 90% of the time or more (unless if there is evidence that the names used to be more neutral at a different point in history), or where I could not find statistics proving the name's gender distribution really is neutral, even though there are sources saying they are neutral names. (Cyan was one of the names where I did not find gender distribution stats about it, only sources claiming that it was neutral.) Limiting the scope like this helps make the project more manageable in size, and makes it so we can be sure that the names really are used as neutral names. On the other hand, sometimes I feel disappointed about having to omit a lot of wonderful names just because I couldn't find evidence that satisfied my rules for what to include. --[[User:Sekhet|Sekhet]] ([[User talk:Sekhet|talk]]) 00:11, 17 May 2021 (UTC)
:: I'll just now post about this in the Discord, and ask what the community thinks is the best solution for names that don't have stats. --[[User:Sekhet|Sekhet]] ([[User talk:Sekhet|talk]]) 14:29, 18 May 2021 (UTC)
== Welcome back! ==
Just wanted to leave a quick message to your talk page welcoming you back! Always nice to see familiar faces around :D Let me know if you need anything from me! --[[User:Ondo|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo|talk]]) 23:09, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
: Thanks! ^___^ -[[User:Sekhet|Sekhet]] ([[User talk:Sekhet|talk]]) 23:28, 4 May 2022 (UTC)
== Nonbinary people in fiction ==
Hi! Glad to see you back from time to time! I think that the edit you made in that page, removing an entry because the author is anti-trans, doesn’t quite fit our goal. What do you think about re-adding it, maybe with a note that the author holds transphobic views? Let me know what you think! —-[[User:Ondo|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo|talk]]) 10:04, 20 August 2022 (UTC)
:Just an update to let you know I've undone your edits about this. A quick Google search didn't give me anything about the author's transphobic views, but if you have references feel free to add them. If you don't agree with the decision, let me know too and we can talk about it!--[[User:Ondo|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo|talk]]) 17:01, 23 August 2022 (UTC)
::All right. I just edited both the articles in question to cite references with specific examples of that author's anti-transgender views. My first choice had been to remove the entries about her entirely so as not to give platform to hatred. Instead we can forewarn readers of exactly what hatred exists. -[[User:Sekhet|Sekhet]] ([[User talk:Sekhet|talk]]) 16:31, 3 September 2022 (UTC)
:::That works, thank you so much! --[[User:Ondo|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo|talk]]) 16:12, 5 September 2022 (UTC)