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[[File:Neutrois_null_symbol.png‎|thumb|A neutrois symbol. Can be seen as a variation on the Venus and Mars symbols that omits the prongs of either. Null or empty set symbol, unicode U+2205 ∅]]
[[File:Neutrois_null_symbol.png‎|thumb|A neutrois symbol. Can be seen as a variation on the Venus and Mars symbols that omits the prongs of either. Null or empty set symbol, unicode U+2205 ∅]]
[[File:Gender-Symbol Neutrois dark transparent Background.png|thumb|A neutrois or neuter symbol. Based on Venus and Mars symbols, without prongs. Unicode U+26AA ⚪]]
[[File:Gender-Symbol Neutrois dark transparent Background.png|thumb|A neutrois or neuter symbol. Based on Venus and Mars symbols, without prongs. Unicode U+26AA ⚪]]
'''Neutrois''' is a made up word by people who just want attention.  
'''Neutrois''' is an identity under the [[nonbinary]] and [[transgender]] umbrellas. Generally speaking, neutrois is a [[transsexual]] identity, meaning that it involves [[gender dysphoria]] and a desire to make a physical [[transition]] to a [[gender neutral]] presentation. However, as a result of the diversity of people who identify as neutrois, some of them say they don't have one or more of those traits, and are no less neutrois for it. What is agreed upon is that neutrois is a nonbinary gender identity, and that people of any [[Assigned gender at birth|gender assigned at birth]] can have this identity.<ref>Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. "What are neutrois?" ''Neutrois Outpost.'' Last updated November 11, 2000. Retrieved March 2, 2001. [http://web.archive.org/web/20010302160052/http://www.neutrois.com/defin.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20010302160052/http://www.neutrois.com/defin.htm]</ref> Also, a person of any [[ethnicity and culture|cultural or ethnic background]] can call [[Pronouns#They|themself]] neutrois.
 
==Etymology==
 
The word "neutrois" was created by a self-identified neutrois person named H. A. Burnham in 1995.<ref>Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. “FAQ.” ''Neutrois Outpost''. Last updated 2000-11-23. Retrieved 2001-03-07. [http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm]</ref> The word "neutrois" is presumably made from French ''neutre'', meaning "neutral" or "neuter," and French ''trois,'' "three," as in [[third gender]]. Because French ''trois'' has sounds that are difficult to Anglicize, some pronunciations of neutrois in use are new-TWA,<ref name="Conlan">{{Cite web |title=Red: "Non-Binary" Person Rejects Male/Female Gender Duality |last=Conlan |first=Mark Gabrish |work=Indybay |date=17 July 2011 |access-date=7 May 2020 |url= https://www.indybay.org/newsitems/2011/07/17/18685039.php }}</ref> new-TRAW, new-TROY, new-TROYS, new-TROSS, new-TROZ, or new-TROYZ.<ref name="Cottle">{{Cite web |title=Hallelujah, it’s raining labels |author=Cottle, J.M. |work=jmcottle.com |date=16 July 2011 |access-date=7 May 2020 |url= https://jmcottle.com/hallelujah-its-raining-labels/}}</ref>
 
==History==
 
In 1995, the word "neutrois" was created by a self-identified neutrois person named H. A. Burnham.<ref>Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. “FAQ.” ''Neutrois Outpost''. Last updated 2000-11-23. Retrieved 2001-03-07. [http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm]</ref>
 
Neutrois was mentioned as one of many valid nonbinary identities in the 2013 text ''Sexuality and Gender for Mental Health Professionals: A Practical Guide''.<ref>{{cite book|isbn=9781446293133|title=Sexuality and Gender for Mental Health Professionals: A Practical Guide|last1=Richards|first1=Christina|last2=Barker|first2=Meg|year=2013|publisher=SAGE Publications}}</ref>
 
In 2014, neutrois was one of 50 genders made available on the social networking site Facebook.<ref name = "Telegraph" >[http://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/facebook/10637968/Facebook-sex-changes-which-one-of-50-genders-are-you.html Facebook sex changes: which one of 50 genders are you?]. ''The Daily Telegraph''. February 14, 2014.</ref>
 
==Transition==
 
In 2000, the site ''Neutrois Outpost'' defined neutrois as a transsexual nonbinary identity: "A Neutrois is someone who identifies as being non-gendered and seeks to lose the major physical signifiers that indicate gender to others (breasts, facial and body hair, crotch bulges, etc). Neutrois are not androgynes, but do pursue an androgynous appearance. They are uniquely bound by their gender dysphoria in that they find both male and female orientations wrong. Because of this, transitioning from an assigned gender, to either male, or female identities is not an acceptable solution. [...] Neutrois are trying to lose gender traits, not gain new ones."<ref>Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. "What are neutrois?" ''Neutrois Outpost.'' Last updated November 11, 2000. Retrieved March 2, 2001. [http://web.archive.org/web/20010302160052/http://www.neutrois.com/defin.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20010302160052/http://www.neutrois.com/defin.htm]</ref>
 
Similarly, Micah of ''Neutrois Nonsense'' defines neutrois as a transsexual identity that moves away from familiar gender markers: "Transition is a process of subtraction: a neutrois wishes to get rid of any and all gendered characteristics so as to achieve as neutral a body as possible. Physical transition may consist primarily in the removal of primary and/or secondary sex characteristics, such as genitals or breasts and body hair. Because the concept and identity of neutrois is relatively new, not all neutrois have undergone surgery, or even seriously want to undergo surgery or physical transition yet."<ref>Micah. "Define." ''Neutrois Nonsense.'' [http://neutrois.me/neutrois/ http://neutrois.me/neutrois/]</ref>
 
Neutrois people can have had any gender assigned at birth. As such, some neutrois transition in a direction that is female-to-neutrois (FTN), and others are male-to-neutrois (MTN).<ref>Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. "What are neutrois?" ''Neutrois Outpost.'' Last updated November 11, 2000. Retrieved March 2, 2001. [http://web.archive.org/web/20010302160052/http://www.neutrois.com/defin.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20010302160052/http://www.neutrois.com/defin.htm]</ref> A self-described FTN neutrois person can be seen using these terms in a newsgroup post in 1997, while talking about their gender dysphoria and their physical transition plans.<ref>Auden, "Comments on the group." January 17, 1997. soc.support.transgendered (newsgroup). [https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.support.transgendered/swaXjZvCHt0/glmUrjGYIqMJ https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.support.transgendered/swaXjZvCHt0/glmUrjGYIqMJ]</ref>
 
==Other uses of neutrois==
 
Some people who have adopted it, or defined it, have given it additional definitions that are different than, or at odds with, its original and main use.
 
According to Neutrois.com, there are currently two main definitions of neutrois: 1. Neutrois people use the word to mean that they have a gender identity that is neither male nor female, but neutral.<ref name="whatis">"What is neutrois?" ''Neutrois.com.'' http://neutrois.com/what-is-neutrois/ http://neutrois.com/what-is-neutrois/]</ref> 2. Other neutrois people use the word to mean that they have no internal sense of [[Gender identity|gender identity]]. In this latter definition, it's a synonym for agender or genderless.<ref name="whatis">"What is neutrois?" ''Neutrois.com.'' http://neutrois.com/what-is-neutrois/ http://neutrois.com/what-is-neutrois/]</ref>
 
Some consider neutrois to be a form of [[Transsexual|transsexuality]]. Some neutrois people feel [[Gender dysphoria|gender dysphoria]], and some don't. Some neutrois people seek to physically [[Transition|transition]] to an ambiguous, androgynous, or neutral [[Gender expression|gender expression]], whereas some don't seek this.<ref name="whatis">"What is neutrois?" ''Neutrois.com.'' http://neutrois.com/what-is-neutrois/ http://neutrois.com/what-is-neutrois/]</ref><ref>"Define." ''Neutrois Nonsense.'' [http://neutrois.me/neutrois]</ref>
 
Some use the word neutrois as a synonym of [[Agender|agender or genderless]], whereas others say these words mean completely different things, and are not interchangeable words.<ref name="whatis">"What is neutrois?" ''Neutrois.com.'' http://neutrois.com/what-is-neutrois/ http://neutrois.com/what-is-neutrois/]</ref> For more information on this dispute, see the main article at [[Agender#Difference between genderless and neutrois|Difference between genderless and neutrois]].
 
==Similar genders==
 
Neutrois isn't another word for [[androgyne]]. According to ''Neutrois Outpost'', the difference between neutrois people and androgynes is gender dysphoria: "While Neutrois seek an androgynous appearance, androgynes aren't Neutrois because being Neutrois involves gender dysphoria. Androgynes don't necessarily have any difficulties with their gender identities."<ref>Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. “FAQ.” ''Neutrois Outpost''. Last updated 2000-11-23. Retrieved 2001-03-07. [http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm]</ref>
 
The origin of the word [[androgyne]] means "male-female," such as a person who is a mix of male and female. For this reason, some neutrois people don't want to also be called androgynes, because their gender identity is an ''absence'' of male and female, not a mix of ''both'' male and female. ''Neutrois Nonsense'' says, "Neutrois is not androgyne, it’s quite the opposite. Androgyny is a combination of female and male characteristics, while neutrois is an elimination of them."<ref>Micah. "Define." ''Neutrois Nonsense.'' [http://neutrois.me/neutrois/ http://neutrois.me/neutrois/]</ref>
 
While these are only some definitions for androgyne, which itself has many meanings that are not agreed upon, this still highlights that people adopt the word "neutrois" for themselves because they feel the word "androgyne" has meanings that don't suit them.
 
Depending on which definition a person uses for neutrois, some other gender identity labels have a similar meaning. If one defines neutrois as having a gender identity that is not female or male, it can mean much the same as [[aporagender]] or [[maverique]]. However, these have their own nuances of meaning.
 
== Notable neutrois people ==
 
''See main article: [[Notable nonbinary people]]''
 
There are many more [[notable nonbinary people|notable people who have a gender identity outside of the binary]]. The following are only some of those notable people who specifically use the word "neutrois" for themselves.
 
''Please help expand this section.''
 
== Neutrois characters in fiction ==
 
''See main article: [[Nonbinary gender in fiction#Nonbinary genders in fiction|Nonbinary gender in fiction]]''
 
There are many more [[Nonbinary gender in fiction#Nonbinary genders in fiction|nonbinary characters in fiction who have a gender identity outside of the binary]]. The following are only some of those characters who are specifically called by the word "neutrois," either in their canon, or by their creators.
 
* The protagonist of the comic [https://beesbuzz.biz/comics/unity Unity] by fluffy is called "neutrois" in the canon.
* In a short sci-fi story by Benjanun Sriduangkaew, "[http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/sriduangkaew_12_13/ Silent Bridge, Pale Cascade]" (2013), one of the characters is described as a "[[neutrois]]," and called by "they" pronouns.<ref>Alex Dally MacFarlane, "Post-Binary Gender in SF: ExcitoTech and Non-Binary Pronouns." June 3, 2014. ''Tor.'' [http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/06/post-binary-gender-in-sf-excitotech-and-non-binary-pronouns http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/06/post-binary-gender-in-sf-excitotech-and-non-binary-pronouns]</ref><ref>Benjanun Sriduangkaew, "Silent Bridge, Pale Cascade." ''Clarkesworld Magazine.'' 2013. [http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/sriduangkaew_12_13/ http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/sriduangkaew_12_13/]</ref>
 
''Please help expand this section.''
 
==External links==
*[http://gender.wikia.com/wiki/Neutrois Gender Wiki's Neutrois article]
*[http://neutrois.com/ Neutrois.com]
*[http://web.archive.org/web/20090818040039/http://neutrois.0catch.com:80/ Neutrois Outpost] (the original neutrois site, resurrected)
*[http://neutrois.me/ Neutrois Nonsense]
*[https://susans.org/wiki/Neutrois Susan's Place Transgender Resource Wiki: Neutrois]
 
==See also==
*[[Nonbinary]]
*[[Agender]]
*[[Gender Neutral]]
*[[Aporagender]]
*[[Maverique]]
 
 
==References==
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« I'm okay with nobody knowing that I might also be neutrois and not just male. And I'm okay with being not sure about this. »
Nathan, 21 (male)[1]
Neutrois
Neutrois.png
Meaning
White is for neutral, unidentified, or questioning gender. Dark chartreuse green (the inverse of lavender, the mix of pink and blue) is for nonbinary gender that isn't female or male. Black is for agender or genderless.
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A neutrois or neuter gender symbol, Unicode U+26B2 ⚲
Neutrois gender symbol. The circles represent a null gender, a variation on Venus and Mars symbols. The additional lavender triangle is for pride in LGBT identity.[2]
A neutrois symbol. Can be seen as a variation on the Venus and Mars symbols that omits the prongs of either. Null or empty set symbol, unicode U+2205 ∅
A neutrois or neuter symbol. Based on Venus and Mars symbols, without prongs. Unicode U+26AA ⚪

Neutrois is an identity under the nonbinary and transgender umbrellas. Generally speaking, neutrois is a transsexual identity, meaning that it involves gender dysphoria and a desire to make a physical transition to a gender neutral presentation. However, as a result of the diversity of people who identify as neutrois, some of them say they don't have one or more of those traits, and are no less neutrois for it. What is agreed upon is that neutrois is a nonbinary gender identity, and that people of any gender assigned at birth can have this identity.[3] Also, a person of any cultural or ethnic background can call themself neutrois.

Etymology

The word "neutrois" was created by a self-identified neutrois person named H. A. Burnham in 1995.[4] The word "neutrois" is presumably made from French neutre, meaning "neutral" or "neuter," and French trois, "three," as in third gender. Because French trois has sounds that are difficult to Anglicize, some pronunciations of neutrois in use are new-TWA,[5] new-TRAW, new-TROY, new-TROYS, new-TROSS, new-TROZ, or new-TROYZ.[6]

History

In 1995, the word "neutrois" was created by a self-identified neutrois person named H. A. Burnham.[7]

Neutrois was mentioned as one of many valid nonbinary identities in the 2013 text Sexuality and Gender for Mental Health Professionals: A Practical Guide.[8]

In 2014, neutrois was one of 50 genders made available on the social networking site Facebook.[9]

Transition

In 2000, the site Neutrois Outpost defined neutrois as a transsexual nonbinary identity: "A Neutrois is someone who identifies as being non-gendered and seeks to lose the major physical signifiers that indicate gender to others (breasts, facial and body hair, crotch bulges, etc). Neutrois are not androgynes, but do pursue an androgynous appearance. They are uniquely bound by their gender dysphoria in that they find both male and female orientations wrong. Because of this, transitioning from an assigned gender, to either male, or female identities is not an acceptable solution. [...] Neutrois are trying to lose gender traits, not gain new ones."[10]

Similarly, Micah of Neutrois Nonsense defines neutrois as a transsexual identity that moves away from familiar gender markers: "Transition is a process of subtraction: a neutrois wishes to get rid of any and all gendered characteristics so as to achieve as neutral a body as possible. Physical transition may consist primarily in the removal of primary and/or secondary sex characteristics, such as genitals or breasts and body hair. Because the concept and identity of neutrois is relatively new, not all neutrois have undergone surgery, or even seriously want to undergo surgery or physical transition yet."[11]

Neutrois people can have had any gender assigned at birth. As such, some neutrois transition in a direction that is female-to-neutrois (FTN), and others are male-to-neutrois (MTN).[12] A self-described FTN neutrois person can be seen using these terms in a newsgroup post in 1997, while talking about their gender dysphoria and their physical transition plans.[13]

Other uses of neutrois

Some people who have adopted it, or defined it, have given it additional definitions that are different than, or at odds with, its original and main use.

According to Neutrois.com, there are currently two main definitions of neutrois: 1. Neutrois people use the word to mean that they have a gender identity that is neither male nor female, but neutral.[14] 2. Other neutrois people use the word to mean that they have no internal sense of gender identity. In this latter definition, it's a synonym for agender or genderless.[14]

Some consider neutrois to be a form of transsexuality. Some neutrois people feel gender dysphoria, and some don't. Some neutrois people seek to physically transition to an ambiguous, androgynous, or neutral gender expression, whereas some don't seek this.[14][15]

Some use the word neutrois as a synonym of agender or genderless, whereas others say these words mean completely different things, and are not interchangeable words.[14] For more information on this dispute, see the main article at Difference between genderless and neutrois.

Similar genders

Neutrois isn't another word for androgyne. According to Neutrois Outpost, the difference between neutrois people and androgynes is gender dysphoria: "While Neutrois seek an androgynous appearance, androgynes aren't Neutrois because being Neutrois involves gender dysphoria. Androgynes don't necessarily have any difficulties with their gender identities."[16]

The origin of the word androgyne means "male-female," such as a person who is a mix of male and female. For this reason, some neutrois people don't want to also be called androgynes, because their gender identity is an absence of male and female, not a mix of both male and female. Neutrois Nonsense says, "Neutrois is not androgyne, it’s quite the opposite. Androgyny is a combination of female and male characteristics, while neutrois is an elimination of them."[17]

While these are only some definitions for androgyne, which itself has many meanings that are not agreed upon, this still highlights that people adopt the word "neutrois" for themselves because they feel the word "androgyne" has meanings that don't suit them.

Depending on which definition a person uses for neutrois, some other gender identity labels have a similar meaning. If one defines neutrois as having a gender identity that is not female or male, it can mean much the same as aporagender or maverique. However, these have their own nuances of meaning.

Notable neutrois people

See main article: Notable nonbinary people

There are many more notable people who have a gender identity outside of the binary. The following are only some of those notable people who specifically use the word "neutrois" for themselves.

Please help expand this section.

Neutrois characters in fiction

See main article: Nonbinary gender in fiction

There are many more nonbinary characters in fiction who have a gender identity outside of the binary. The following are only some of those characters who are specifically called by the word "neutrois," either in their canon, or by their creators.

  • The protagonist of the comic Unity by fluffy is called "neutrois" in the canon.
  • In a short sci-fi story by Benjanun Sriduangkaew, "Silent Bridge, Pale Cascade" (2013), one of the characters is described as a "neutrois," and called by "they" pronouns.[18][19]

Please help expand this section.

External links

See also


References

  1. This quote is a snippet from an answer to the survey conducted in the year 2018. Note for editors: the text of the quote, as well as the name, age and gender identity of its author shouldn't be changed.
  2. Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. “FAQ.” Neutrois Outpost. Last updated 2000-11-23. Retrieved 2001-03-07. http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm
  3. Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. "What are neutrois?" Neutrois Outpost. Last updated November 11, 2000. Retrieved March 2, 2001. http://web.archive.org/web/20010302160052/http://www.neutrois.com/defin.htm
  4. Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. “FAQ.” Neutrois Outpost. Last updated 2000-11-23. Retrieved 2001-03-07. http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm
  5. Conlan, Mark Gabrish (17 July 2011). "Red: "Non-Binary" Person Rejects Male/Female Gender Duality". Indybay. Retrieved 7 May 2020.
  6. Cottle, J.M. (16 July 2011). "Hallelujah, it's raining labels". jmcottle.com. Retrieved 7 May 2020.
  7. Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. “FAQ.” Neutrois Outpost. Last updated 2000-11-23. Retrieved 2001-03-07. http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm
  8. Richards, Christina; Barker, Meg (2013). Sexuality and Gender for Mental Health Professionals: A Practical Guide. SAGE Publications. ISBN 9781446293133.
  9. Facebook sex changes: which one of 50 genders are you?. The Daily Telegraph. February 14, 2014.
  10. Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. "What are neutrois?" Neutrois Outpost. Last updated November 11, 2000. Retrieved March 2, 2001. http://web.archive.org/web/20010302160052/http://www.neutrois.com/defin.htm
  11. Micah. "Define." Neutrois Nonsense. http://neutrois.me/neutrois/
  12. Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. "What are neutrois?" Neutrois Outpost. Last updated November 11, 2000. Retrieved March 2, 2001. http://web.archive.org/web/20010302160052/http://www.neutrois.com/defin.htm
  13. Auden, "Comments on the group." January 17, 1997. soc.support.transgendered (newsgroup). https://groups.google.com/d/msg/soc.support.transgendered/swaXjZvCHt0/glmUrjGYIqMJ
  14. 14.0 14.1 14.2 14.3 "What is neutrois?" Neutrois.com. http://neutrois.com/what-is-neutrois/ http://neutrois.com/what-is-neutrois/]
  15. "Define." Neutrois Nonsense. [1]
  16. Axey, Qwill, Rave, and Luscious Daniel, eds. “FAQ.” Neutrois Outpost. Last updated 2000-11-23. Retrieved 2001-03-07. http://web.archive.org/web/20010307115554/http://www.neutrois.com/faq.htm
  17. Micah. "Define." Neutrois Nonsense. http://neutrois.me/neutrois/
  18. Alex Dally MacFarlane, "Post-Binary Gender in SF: ExcitoTech and Non-Binary Pronouns." June 3, 2014. Tor. http://www.tor.com/blogs/2014/06/post-binary-gender-in-sf-excitotech-and-non-binary-pronouns
  19. Benjanun Sriduangkaew, "Silent Bridge, Pale Cascade." Clarkesworld Magazine. 2013. http://clarkesworldmagazine.com/sriduangkaew_12_13/