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Yea more help would be great! I was just following pages through to begin with. A visual editor would be great! Might be easier if we find a better form of communication, especially if there's going to be a group of us. Discord or Skype maybe?
Yea more help would be great! I was just following pages through to begin with. A visual editor would be great! Might be easier if we find a better form of communication, especially if there's going to be a group of us. Discord or Skype maybe?


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They seem to be just being generally unhelpful at Ambonec. [[User:Falkirks|Falkirks]] ([[User_talk:Falkirks|talk]]) 01:08, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
They seem to be just being generally unhelpful at Ambonec. [[User:Falkirks|Falkirks]] ([[User_talk:Falkirks|talk]]) 01:08, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
:A bit late, but blocked for one day --[[User:NeoMahler|NeoMahler]] ([[User talk:NeoMahler|talk]]) 06:30, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
:A bit late, but blocked for one day --[[User:NeoMahler|NeoMahler]] ([[User talk:NeoMahler|talk]]) 06:30, 18 May 2018 (UTC)
== Why attack Helicopter is vandalism but your "digigender" from Tumblr isn't? ==
 
Your non existant genders can exist, but attack Helicopter not? Faggot!
== Bordergender ==
 
You said the flag had a license that allows anyone to upload it. Tell me how it got that license. I did not upload it to the old wiki or to deviantart. I designed the flag and it is not free to use. Take it down. Design another one if you want, I don't care. Redefine the term without using my wording and do not use my flag design. This is very simple. Respect that you are using my content without my permission and I wish it to be taken down.
:{{ping|Izayaorihahaha}} We imported the flag (and most of the other pride flags too) from the "Pride Flags" DeviantArt account. As you can see [https://www.deviantart.com/pride-flags/art/Bordergender-1-554424614 in the Bordergender (1) page], they say ''All designs in this gallery are HQ and are free to use for anything pride-related!'' Their [https://pride-color-schemes.tumblr.com/faq FAQ] states ''Q2: Can I use _____ flag? A2: Absolutely! All of our flags are free for everyone to use. Nobody owns them (sometimes we didn’t even create them), and credit is appreciated but not necessary.'' They don't specify a license, but this description makes it compatible with [https://creativecommons.org/licenses/by-sa/4.0/ CC-BY-SA 4.0], which is the one we use here. Additionally, the description of the identity can be re-used under the terms of fair use, since we are an educational resource.
 
:However, I have re-written the description text (even though we are not required to). As for the flags, I'm afraid I can't take it down. I don't know how your flags ended up being free-to-use, but they are. If we ever find another flag design for this identity, we can replace it, but until then, the flag stays. --[[User:Ondo|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo|talk]]) 09:40, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 
::{{ping|Ondo}} "I don't know how your flags ended up being free-to-use" Theft. Theft is how. I never gave anyone the right to repost my design. How hard is it for you or someone involved with this wiki to design a flag in windows paint?
 
::You either condone art theft and misattribution, or you take the flag down until a new one is designed, it's very simple.
 
::"It's legal to use" for whatever reason does not make it right. Please respect my wishes and just take it down. All you're doing here is showing me how little you care about lgbt artists/designers. I don't care to explain my reasoning, and I shouldn't have to. I appreciate you rewriting the description and am taking your word that you did on good faith because I'd rather not read it. Please just take the flag down and give me that peace of mind.
 
:::{{ping|Izayaorihahaha}} we don't condone art theft, that's why we have a clear license and a [[Nonbinary Wiki:Content Policy|content policy]]. If you consider that your original art was stolen, that's fine and I sympathise with you. The course of action, however, should be contacting with the DeviantArt user that actually uploaded your content and gave free-to-use permission to everyone. When they take it down, we will do the same in accordance to our license. Taking it down here but keeping it in DeviantArt would accomplish nothing, since anyone could re-upload it again (here or anywhere else on the Internet) without restrictions. --[[User:Ondo|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo|talk]]) 10:07, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 
::: {{ping|Izayaorihahaha}} As a heads up, I have removed your flag "bordergender1" from my collection of pride flags which is what the flags on the wiki are taken from. This doesn't change what is on the wiki of course, but it means I won't reuse it in further projects. I do very much disagree with your rationale about the identity, but the flag is your own. And as indicated above, my views don't reflect those of this wiki, but as someone who is active here I did want to do what I can. [[User:Falkirks|Falkirks]] ([[User_talk:Falkirks|talk]]) 15:52, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 
{{ping|Izayaorihahaha}} I've spoken with a member of our community who is part of the team behind that DeviantArt account, and they've told me that they run it under the assumption that, if someone makes a flag public, they want it to be promoted. I didn't know that, so I apologise for the miscommunication. I will delete the flags designed by you, but could you please send a private message to @nonbinarywiki on Tumblr from you blog confirming that it's you? I just want to make sure. Again, I'm sorry and I hope that you understand the confusion; I didn't do it in bad faith. --[[User:Ondo|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo|talk]]) 21:15, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 
::{{ping|Ondo}} Thank you, Ondo. I don't really use wikis much, so I've been struggling a bit with responses, but I did send a message from izayaorihahaha on tumblr just now. I hope whoever you spoke to will take the flags down from DA soon as well, as I did reach out there previously several times. Thank you for your understanding and patience.
 
== Spambots ==
 
Looks like this wiki is overrun with bots, and too few admins to combat them. I know this is an unsolicited offer, but I hate capchas and I have experience in technical support for wikis, so can this be a win-win? I have OCD and captchas tick off my OCD, and I know a thing or two or three about combating vandals and spambots.--[[User:Oxyaena|Oxyaena]] ([[User talk:Oxyaena|talk]]) 12:45, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
:Edit filters can help with the spambots and even vandals, but I've noticed this wiki lacks even a basic, proper references template, so that's definitely one of the things on my priority list. [[User:Oxyaena|Oxyaena]] ([[User talk:Oxyaena|talk]]) 12:57, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
::{{ping|Oxyaena}} thanks for the offer. We do get multiple spambots creating accounts every day, but their edits never make it past the abuse filter. I could count with the fingers of a single hand the times a spambot has managed to actually create spam pages (and we've always been quick to answer, thanks to the real-time #wikifeed channel in the Discord server). Edits that get through the filters are generally anonymous human vandals, but they don't come very often, so they don't present a problem currently. Thank you for your interest again, and welcome to the wiki! :) --[[User:Ondo|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo|talk]]) 13:46, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
 
== Thanks for the warm welcome! ==
Thanks, Ondo and team, for the salute! 'will try to connect with the Nonbinary wiki peeps on discord if time permits. Thanks again for all the hard work in putting together resources focused on nonbinary/genderqueer/genderfluid/gender-nonconfirming lives and experiences! 'really helps a lot in empowering moiself as well! [[User:TheAgency AgentMiyungs!]]
 
== New Miraheze Meeting Announced! ==
 
Hello,
 
I am writing to let you know a new Miraheze Meeting has been confirmed as you requested updates.
===Miramania===
* '''Date:''' 15/01/2020
* '''Time:''' 21:00 UTC
* '''Hosts:''' [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]]
* ''' Available Meeting Operator:''' [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]]
* '''Description:''' Discussion regarding the possibility of a face to face meetup event for Miraheze Users.
* '''Attendees:''' Sign the attendance sheet by clicking [https://meta.miraheze.org/w/index.php?title=Miraheze_Meetings/Calender/2020/Jan/Miramania&action=edit here]
 
Please come along to chat with us in #miraheze-meetings on chat.freenode.net during the alloted time.
 
Thanks, [[User:RhinosF1|RhinosF1]] 15:18, 30 December 2019 (UTC)
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== RandomUser34 ==
RandomUser34 is a stalker who follows me and abuses me on several wikis. He likes to make up crap about others. I'd be careful, this vandal has had Encyc wiki to close down after he made too many sockpuppets and has constantly blanked pages. This wiki is perhaps his next target. He was also blocked on Everybody Wiki for his threatening behavior. Check this out: 10:05, 12 December 2019 WikiMaster talk contribs blocked RandomUser34 talk contribs with an expiration time of 6 months (account creation disabled) (Intimidating behavior/harassment) 11:19, 16 November 2019 WikiMaster talk contribs deleted page User:RandomUser34 (Vandalism) Here is the link address to prove that this user is a harasser. https://en.everybodywiki.com/index.php?title=Special:Log/WikiMaster&offset=20191223085839&type=&user=WikiMaster
 
Try to find this: '''10:05, 12 December 2019 WikiMaster talk contribs blocked RandomUser34 talk contribs with an expiration time of 6 months (account creation disabled) (Intimidating behavior/harassment)''' --[[User:8ight|8ight]] ([[User talk:8ight|talk]]) 20:09, 13 January 2020 (UTC)
:Hey, take your fights elsewhere. I will not block any of you two here because you have done nothing wrong here. However, if you continue with this argument, which is disruptive and does not contribute to the wiki, I will block ''both'' of you indefinitely. Thanks for understanding. --[[User:Ondo|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo|talk]]) 20:28, 13 January 2020 (UTC)