Talk:Gender neutral titles

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    Tidying up post-transfer[edit source]

    Yay, I'm glad this page made it over from the old nonbinary wiki! :) I'm gonna go through and add up-to-date info from the Nonbinary Stats 2017 survey for how much each of these are used.

    Does anyone have any feelings on a popularity threshold for these? The list is short so it's not a huge deal, but on the old wiki we required evidence that words were used by more than a small handful of people in order to list them, especially on the pronouns pages. Maybe it's something to discuss in case the title list here gets much longer? --Cassolotl (talk) pronouns: they/them 14:02, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

    Where did "Tiz" derive from and why isn't it "Zen"?[edit source]

    Citizen is usually pronounced "sit uh zuhn". "Zen" already has a definition but "zun" or even "zin" are more open. I would much appreciate being referred to as "Zin Smith". It has a formal and pleasant sound to it but some people have shortened Zinfadel wines to Zins (that meaning is collapsed among very few wine drinker and can be pushed back against). I could easily get used to hearing "Zun Smith" or just "Zun" when being greeted. It could be a neutral verion "hun" and still derive from citizen. 10:04, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

    hey! we don't coin terms here, however I can see tiz has been in use since before 2016 (more research ongoing). it seems to have been invented as a replacement for sir/ma'am (e.g. hello sir/ma'am/tiz), and I imagine the reason it isn't zen is because - as you state - zen already has a definition. or because the person proposing it liked tiz more. i can't give more concrete information right now, but if you find anything in your own searching, please share it with us!
    - Amazingakita (talk) 12:38, 19 August 2021 (UTC)

    "or if the gender is currently unknown."[edit source]

    do people use neutral titles if a gender is unknown, or do they just leave it out? yes, no title is a section here, but for the titles that are actual titles, are they used when a gender isn't known? Amazingakita (talk) 16:26, 31 August 2022 (UTC)