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Non-binary or nonbinary?

We should agree on what's the correct form. Reddit (and I think that Cassolotl too (here)) spell it nonbinary, while Wikipedia spells it non-binary (which is the form we use here, for the moment). If anybody thinks that nonbinary is better, just let us know and we will decide what form do we use. --NeoMahler (talk) 15:50, 11 March 2017 (UTC)

I think that nonbinary is better because it's easier to type, it reads more smoothly, and it matches the URL of the wiki. However, I have no particularly strong opinion on the matter. odious_odes (yodel) 22:42, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

I think "nonbinary" is better. It's being more and more commonly used, and a twitter poll by Neutrois Nonsense (http://neutrois.me) had more people voting for "nonbinary" than "non-binary". --Kaiforest (talk) 11:57, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

@Kaiforest: thanks for your opinion! I will rename the wiki to Nonbinary wiki together with the project namespace. Than I will proceed to change all words that appear on articles (you can start doing this last thing, if you want). --NeoMahler (talk) 12:39, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

Rename the wiki to Non-binary wiki

Basically, the problem now is that the project namespace has the capital letter: Non-Binary:General discussion. I propose to change it to Non-binary wiki (also, it would follow better the style guide. If nobody disagrees I will fill a request to Phabricator soon. (Ping Cassolotl because active). --NeoMahler (talk) 16:20, 21 March 2017 (UTC)

I am totally down with that. :) --Cassolotl (talk) pronouns: they/them 21:50, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

@Cassolotl: requested. You might want to subscribe to the request to keep track of the progress. --NeoMahler (talk) 16:09, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

@NeoMahler: Looks like it's marked resolved! Awesome. :) --Cassolotl (talk) pronouns: they/them 17:51, 23 March 2017 (UTC)

Are social networks good for references?

There are pages, like multigender, were almost all references are links to tumblr, which is a blog service/social network. I propose to remove these references and the corresponding content if we can't find any other references. Any thoughts? --NeoMahler (talk) 11:12, 7 April 2017 (UTC)

Since there's no participation in this thread, I will remove all references to tumblr and other social networks. --NeoMahler (talk) 09:28, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

I have removed all references and added an filter to warn users that add links to tumblr. --NeoMahler (talk) 11:05, 15 April 2017 (UTC)

Obviously content referencing only tumblr or social networks isn't ideal, but at the moment the vast majority of information about nonbinary identities can be found in personal conversations (unciteable), on social networks, and in articles where a reporter is interviewing a single nonbinary person, which doesn't seem any more of a reliable source than social networks. It's still totally dependent on that one person talking getting their info right. If we don't allow citing social networks, that's leaving out a lot of primary source material, most particularly for terms that were coined on tumblr. Leaving them out just makes this resource less complete; I think a better solution would be a warning at the top of the article saying it cites a social network. --Kaiforest (talk) 12:10, 18 May 2017 (UTC)

AFAB/AMAB or the written-out forms?

Most of the time I see people use AFAB/AMAB instead of "assigned female at birth". Do you think it's a good idea to make AFAB (or AMAB) the main page? That's how it is at the moment but I wanted to make sure that was a reasonable course of action. --MxLexicon (talk) 2:42 8 April 2017 (UTC)

@MxLexicon: I think that it's better to use the most well-known form for the page titles. I have added the last line to the Naming conventions. Edit it if you think it's inaccurate! --NeoMahler (talk) 08:58, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

@MxLexicon: Checkout Assigned at birth- Both AFAB and AMAB redirect there. I think the acronym works and makes sense, so long as it links to the explanation. --Pyrollamasteak (talk) Sunday, April 9, 2017 at 5:12:30 am (UTC)

New main page and featured articles

Hi! I'm about to finish the new main page. There some things we have to decide together:

1. Featured articles: I have chosen 12 articles and put them in subpages of the Main Page (see here). I have chosen articles of different topics, not only identities. Let me know if you think that an article shouldn't be there, or if an article that is not there should be there. The featured article will automatically change every month.
2. Texts: please check all texts in the page and correct any errors you find. I'm not a native English speakers, so there's probably something wrong. Also, if you think that a text is too long or too short, feel free to change it, this is a wiki!
3. General format: I used the color scheme of the non-binary flag and a flat design because I love flat designs :P However, I'm open on any ideas you have! If you want to make a small change, you can make it directly in my subpage. If it's a big change, please create a new subpage under your user.

Thanks! --NeoMahler (talk) 11:59, 8 April 2017 (UTC)

I love it! I made some small edits, including minor grammar points, but that's all. I think the colours and style are good. odious_odes (yodel) 15:32, 10 April 2017 (UTC)

@Odious odes: thanks! I have moved it to Main Page. --NeoMahler (talk) 14:31, 12 April 2017 (UTC)

Archived version of nonbinary.org

I tried clicking the link on the main page and it said "Page cannot be displayed due to robots.txt". All the nonbinary.org pages show the same result. Is this just me or is it doing this for everyone? Is there another archived version we can work from? --Kaiforest (talk) 12:15, 18 May 2017 (UTC)