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Yea more help would be great! I was just following pages through to begin with. A visual editor would be great! Might be easier if we find a better form of communication, especially if there's going to be a group of us. Discord or Skype maybe?

Login problems[edit source]

A while ago I told you about some login problems. They are ongoing! I'm going to try to get a screenshot of the problem now... --Cassolotl (talk) pronouns: they/them 11:04, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

I tried to replicate it, and I can't. :( But it's still borked! I'll try to get a screenshot next time and post it here. --Cassolotl (talk) pronouns: they/them 11:12, 12 June 2017 (UTC)

@Cassolotl: mmh, well, try to get a screenshot if you can, and I will report it. Happy to have you back here! :) --NeoMahler (talk) 13:59, 12 June 2017 (UTC)
I think I already told you this somewhere else, but: login problems appear to be resolved! --Cassolotl (talk) pronouns: they/them 13:52, 19 August 2017 (UTC)

Deleting Template:Content_warning[edit source]

That template was in use in several pages. Do you plan to replace it? Because now those are redlinked. Falkirks (talk) 16:45, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

I think the reason "What links here" said that is because the cache hadn't been updated. Falkirks (talk) 16:46, 4 August 2017 (UTC)
@Falkirks: I think I will replace all templates using {{ambox}} or {{mbox}} for {{notice}} when the cache updates. I didn't think about that. The templates are now restored, but I guess that the redlinks will be there until the cache updates. I'll be more careful next time! --NeoMahler (talk) 17:13, 4 August 2017 (UTC)

Nonbinary.wiki domain[edit source]

I have the nonbinary.wiki domain which can be configured for this wiki. If you want to do this you would need to contact miraheze (https://meta.miraheze.org/wiki/Custom_domains) and ask to use LetsEncrypt Falkirks (talk) 17:04, 9 August 2017 (UTC)

@Falkirks: ok, I'll take a look at it tomorrow afternoon or Monday, when I go back home (currently on vacation with limited internet connection) --NeoMahler (talk) 15:07, 12 August 2017 (UTC)
@Falkirks: I have sent the email. I assume that your domain already points to Miraheze's nameservers? --NeoMahler (talk) 11:30, 14 August 2017 (UTC)
@NeoMahler: Yes, I set that up. Falkirks (talk) 14:33, 14 August 2017 (UTC)

Glossary of Russian gender and sex terminology[edit source]

Glad to know you liked my edit of the Russian glossary, because I myself had second thoughts afterwards, when I looked through the other glossaries with non-Latin scripts. Should we rearrange all of them? I could definitely do it for Chinese for example, listing the entries by the radicals and stroke numbers of the first character(s), in the way they would be in a Chinese dictionary. But does that make a lot of sense in a wiki that is basically in English? Wolle (talk) 18:10, 30 April 2018 (UTC)

@Wolle: in the case of Rusian, maybe the headings could be <Cyrillic character> - <Latin transcription>. I don't think this is possible with Chinese though, since it doesn't use an alphabet. Since we also give the transcription, I think it would be good to offer ordering based on both the original Chinese writing and the Latin transcription. By the way, do you know if the glossary uses Mandarin or Cantonese? --NeoMahler (talk) 19:28, 30 April 2018 (UTC)
Have a look at the Russian page. Do you think this is good now? For Chinese, my knowledge of Mandarin is pretty basic and that of Cantonese non-existant, but the Pinyin transcriptions given clearly look Mandarin, "他" is Mandarin, but not Cantonese. So, I can't guarantee that there is no Cantonese mixed in at all, but it all looks very Mandarin to me. BTW, there is an inconsistency: Sometimes the simplified spelling (Mainland China, Singapore) is given first ("酷儿; 酷兒"), sometimes it's the traditional one (Taiwan, Hong Kong, China towns all over the world) ("雙靈; 双灵"). Of course, this can be a neat way not to take sides... Wolle (talk) 22:35, 1 May 2018 (UTC)
@Wolle: the Russian page is good, thanks! I think we should be consistent, placing the traditional spelling before the simplified one (or viceversa) doesn't seem disrespectful to me. Thanks for pointing that out too! Maybe it could be formatted as a table: it not only helps to separate traditional from simplified spelling, but it also automatically sorts in alphabetical order taking Latin as a reference (but only if the user clicks the small arrow next to the column title). I don't know how the automatic sorting works for Chinese characters, though. Do you think this would be better? --NeoMahler (talk) 14:26, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
I've rearranged the Chinese list in the following order: "Simplified Chinese; Traditional Chinese (Pinyin transcription) English" (even for the cases where there is no difference between simplified and traditional). I don't know how to format a table with automatic sorting, but if you do, you will be able to do it with this uniform sequence. Once there is a table, we can test how it sorts the Chinese entries. Wolle (talk) 22:16, 2 May 2018 (UTC)
@Wolle: done, to sort based on a column just click the small black arrows next to the corresponding column title. There's some sort of sorting going on in the Chinese columns, but I don't know what it is based on. --NeoMahler (talk) 08:20, 3 May 2018 (UTC)
I haven't checked it line by line, but it looks like the kind of sequencing you would find in a dictionary (by radical first, then by additional stroke number). So, I think it's fine. Wolle (talk) 19:59, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

@Wolle: cool! Thanks for the suggestions :) There are still other glossaries for languages that don't use the Latin alphabet. I'll try to format them using the same type of table. See you around! --NeoMahler (talk) 21:07, 3 May 2018 (UTC)

Can you block 216.186.97.29?[edit source]

They seem to be just being generally unhelpful at Ambonec. Falkirks (talk) 01:08, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

A bit late, but blocked for one day --NeoMahler (talk) 06:30, 18 May 2018 (UTC)

Bordergender[edit source]

You said the flag had a license that allows anyone to upload it. Tell me how it got that license. I did not upload it to the old wiki or to deviantart. I designed the flag and it is not free to use. Take it down. Design another one if you want, I don't care. Redefine the term without using my wording and do not use my flag design. This is very simple. Respect that you are using my content without my permission and I wish it to be taken down.

@Izayaorihahaha: We imported the flag (and most of the other pride flags too) from the "Pride Flags" DeviantArt account. As you can see in the Bordergender (1) page, they say All designs in this gallery are HQ and are free to use for anything pride-related! Their FAQ states Q2: Can I use _____ flag? A2: Absolutely! All of our flags are free for everyone to use. Nobody owns them (sometimes we didn’t even create them), and credit is appreciated but not necessary. They don't specify a license, but this description makes it compatible with CC-BY-SA 4.0, which is the one we use here. Additionally, the description of the identity can be re-used under the terms of fair use, since we are an educational resource.
However, I have re-written the description text (even though we are not required to). As for the flags, I'm afraid I can't take it down. I don't know how your flags ended up being free-to-use, but they are. If we ever find another flag design for this identity, we can replace it, but until then, the flag stays. --Ondo (talk) 09:40, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
@Ondo: "I don't know how your flags ended up being free-to-use" Theft. Theft is how. I never gave anyone the right to repost my design. How hard is it for you or someone involved with this wiki to design a flag in windows paint?
You either condone art theft and misattribution, or you take the flag down until a new one is designed, it's very simple.
"It's legal to use" for whatever reason does not make it right. Please respect my wishes and just take it down. All you're doing here is showing me how little you care about lgbt artists/designers. I don't care to explain my reasoning, and I shouldn't have to. I appreciate you rewriting the description and am taking your word that you did on good faith because I'd rather not read it. Please just take the flag down and give me that peace of mind.
@Izayaorihahaha: we don't condone art theft, that's why we have a clear license and a content policy. If you consider that your original art was stolen, that's fine and I sympathise with you. The course of action, however, should be contacting with the DeviantArt user that actually uploaded your content and gave free-to-use permission to everyone. When they take it down, we will do the same in accordance to our license. Taking it down here but keeping it in DeviantArt would accomplish nothing, since anyone could re-upload it again (here or anywhere else on the Internet) without restrictions. --Ondo (talk) 10:07, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
@Izayaorihahaha: As a heads up, I have removed your flag "bordergender1" from my collection of pride flags which is what the flags on the wiki are taken from. This doesn't change what is on the wiki of course, but it means I won't reuse it in further projects. I do very much disagree with your rationale about the identity, but the flag is your own. And as indicated above, my views don't reflect those of this wiki, but as someone who is active here I did want to do what I can. Falkirks (talk) 15:52, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@Izayaorihahaha: I've spoken with a member of our community who is part of the team behind that DeviantArt account, and they've told me that they run it under the assumption that, if someone makes a flag public, they want it to be promoted. I didn't know that, so I apologise for the miscommunication. I will delete the flags designed by you, but could you please send a private message to @nonbinarywiki on Tumblr from you blog confirming that it's you? I just want to make sure. Again, I'm sorry and I hope that you understand the confusion; I didn't do it in bad faith. --Ondo (talk) 21:15, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

@Ondo: Thank you, Ondo. I don't really use wikis much, so I've been struggling a bit with responses, but I did send a message from izayaorihahaha on tumblr just now. I hope whoever you spoke to will take the flags down from DA soon as well, as I did reach out there previously several times. Thank you for your understanding and patience.

Spambots[edit source]

Looks like this wiki is overrun with bots, and too few admins to combat them. I know this is an unsolicited offer, but I hate capchas and I have experience in technical support for wikis, so can this be a win-win? I have OCD and captchas tick off my OCD, and I know a thing or two or three about combating vandals and spambots.--Oxyaena (talk) 12:45, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Edit filters can help with the spambots and even vandals, but I've noticed this wiki lacks even a basic, proper references template, so that's definitely one of the things on my priority list. Oxyaena (talk) 12:57, 27 June 2019 (UTC)
@Oxyaena: thanks for the offer. We do get multiple spambots creating accounts every day, but their edits never make it past the abuse filter. I could count with the fingers of a single hand the times a spambot has managed to actually create spam pages (and we've always been quick to answer, thanks to the real-time #wikifeed channel in the Discord server). Edits that get through the filters are generally anonymous human vandals, but they don't come very often, so they don't present a problem currently. Thank you for your interest again, and welcome to the wiki! :) --Ondo (talk) 13:46, 27 June 2019 (UTC)

Thanks for the warm welcome![edit source]

Thanks, Ondo and team, for the salute! 'will try to connect with the Nonbinary wiki peeps on discord if time permits. Thanks again for all the hard work in putting together resources focused on nonbinary/genderqueer/genderfluid/gender-nonconfirming lives and experiences! 'really helps a lot in empowering moiself as well! User:TheAgency AgentMiyungs!