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    I know it can help new binary [[allies]] to say "both", but it contradicts the rest of the sentence by suggesting that there are only two genders. I think this could be viewed as sexist, even if the writer had good intentions.
    I know it can help new binary [[allies]] to say "both", but it contradicts the rest of the sentence by suggesting that there are only two genders. I think this could be viewed as sexist, even if the writer had good intentions.
    :{{ping|Otvm}} thanks for pointing out! I have rewritten the sentence, tell me what do you think about it now (I have also removed the contradiction of "their gender can be neither"). I just added "both ''binary'' genders", because while it's true that there are more genders, there are just two binary genders. --[[User:NeoMahler|NeoMahler]] ([[User talk:NeoMahler|talk]]) 23:58, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
    :{{ping|Otvm}} thanks for pointing out! I have rewritten the sentence, tell me what do you think about it now (I have also removed the contradiction of "their gender can be neither"). I just added "both ''binary'' genders", because while it's true that there are more genders, there are just two binary genders. --[[User:NeoMahler|NeoMahler]] ([[User talk:NeoMahler|talk]]) 23:58, 16 December 2017 (UTC)
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    I think it would be helpful to give a small label showing which page the article is describing. It is slightly odd to be suddenly thrown into a description without first knowing what is being described. I have provided a possibility below. --[[User:Otvm|Otvm]] ([[User talk:Otvm|talk]]) 00:29, 1 January 2018 (UTC)
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    Front page is confusing!

    Hello. :) I'm thinking the front page is not very introductory - it doesn't suck you into a wiki rabbit hole like every wiki should! It needs more links to other pages and sections. I think perhaps a link to Special:WantedPages and maybe Category:Nonbinary identities might be a good start? --Cassolotl (talk) 01:36, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

    I also just created style guide, which should probably be somewhere obvious, unless folks want to wait until it's a bit more fleshed out? --Cassolotl (talk) 02:03, 20 March 2017 (UTC)

    Cassolotl: I started making a nicer design for the main page here, using the color scheme of the non-binary flag. I have incorporated your changes there, tell me what do you think! There's just one thing I don't like: new users or casual visitors don't need a list of templates. Templates are just maintenance stuff, that can attract potential editors, but they shouldn't be in the main page. --NeoMahler (talk) 15:27, 20 March 2017 (UTC)
    NeoMahler: I'm fine with all of that. :) --Cassolotl (talk) pronouns: they/them 21:52, 22 March 2017 (UTC)

    Keeping sexist language out

    I know it can help new binary allies to say "both", but it contradicts the rest of the sentence by suggesting that there are only two genders. I think this could be viewed as sexist, even if the writer had good intentions.

    @Otvm: thanks for pointing out! I have rewritten the sentence, tell me what do you think about it now (I have also removed the contradiction of "their gender can be neither"). I just added "both binary genders", because while it's true that there are more genders, there are just two binary genders. --NeoMahler (talk) 23:58, 16 December 2017 (UTC)

    Featured Article

    I think it would be helpful to give a small label showing which page the article is describing. It is slightly odd to be suddenly thrown into a description without first knowing what is being described. I have provided a possibility below. --Otvm (talk) 00:29, 1 January 2018 (UTC)

    Featured article

    Pronouns are a part of language used to refer to someone or something without using proper nouns. In standard English, some singular third-person pronouns are "he" and "she," which are usually seen as gender-specific pronouns, referring to a man and a woman, respectively. A gender-neutral pronoun or gender-inclusive pronoun is one that gives no implications about gender, and could be used for someone of any gender. Some languages only have gender-neutral pronouns, whereas other languages have difficulty establishing any that aren't gender-specific. People with non-binary gender identities often choose new third-person pronouns for themselves as part of their transition. They often choose gender-neutral pronouns so that others won't see them as female or male.