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    ::I agree with Falkirk's slight disagree. I think LGBT+ (with all its possible variations) should be the default for the wiki. But of course, it's also situational. For example, in an article about someone who considers that they are included under MOGII umbrella (instad of using LGBT+), then we should keep MOGII on that article.  
    ::I agree with Falkirk's slight disagree. I think LGBT+ (with all its possible variations) should be the default for the wiki. But of course, it's also situational. For example, in an article about someone who considers that they are included under MOGII umbrella (instad of using LGBT+), then we should keep MOGII on that article.  
    ::{{ping|Falkirks}} I assume making this search with a bot should be easy. Could you take care of it? Include any variation of the LGBT+ acronym. Thanks! --[[User:Ondo|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo|talk]]) 14:21, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
    ::{{ping|Falkirks}} I assume making this search with a bot should be easy. Could you take care of it? Include any variation of the LGBT+ acronym. Thanks! --[[User:Ondo|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo|talk]]) 14:21, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
    ::: Yup! I can get that done either today or tomorrow. [[User:Falkirks|Falkirks]] ([[User_talk:Falkirks|talk]]) 14:44, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
    :::: I excluded internal links (to LGBT) from the results and this is what I got:
    * LGB (3)
    * LGBT (153)
    * LGBTT (11)
    * LGBTI (2)
    * LGBT+ (13)
    * LGBTQ (26)
    * LGBTIQ (3)
    * LGBTQ+ (7)
    * LGBTQI (12)
    * LGBTQIA+ (1)
    :::: These are rough numbers, and a lot of the variety comes from articles which are glossaries or speciifcally talk about the variety of terms. But it does seem that we have a strong bias for "LGBT" right now. [[User:Falkirks|Falkirks]] ([[User_talk:Falkirks|talk]]) 17:53, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
    ::::: {{ping|MorningSparrow|Falkirks}} great, thanks! We could add "LGBT" as the preferred neutral form to talk about the community, then. What do you think? Ping {{ping|Sekhet}} too. --[[User:Ondo|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo|talk]]) 18:37, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
    :::::: {{ping|MorningSparrow|Falkirks|Sekhet}} bumping this in case you missed the notification. --[[User:Ondo|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo|talk]]) 14:38, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
    ::::::: Oh got it! This sounds good :) [[User:Falkirks|Falkirks]] ([[User_talk:Falkirks|talk]]) 09:13, 5 May 2019 (UTC)
    == Images ==
    Any guidelines about images and pertinence I should know, official or otherwise?

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    Acronym[edit source]

    I think we need to standardize acronym use in the wiki. I propose LGBTQIA+, as it is recognizable by most people, yet is most inclusive. MorningSparrow (talk) 18:25, 14 April 2019 (UTC)

    I slightly disagree with standardization, because a choice of acronym can be situational. But I do think we need to work toward something more standard while allowing for flexibility. If we had to pick a default I would go with "LGBTQ+" as it is widely used and doesn't have the toxic discourse around whether A stands for ally or ace/aro. But sometimes a longer acronym is better and more inclusive, so I definitely see that side. Maybe a helpful first step would be to run a search of the wiki as it stands and figure out which acronyms are used most frequently? Then we have something to work from. Falkirks (talk) 22:04, 14 April 2019 (UTC)
    I agree with Falkirk's slight disagree. I think LGBT+ (with all its possible variations) should be the default for the wiki. But of course, it's also situational. For example, in an article about someone who considers that they are included under MOGII umbrella (instad of using LGBT+), then we should keep MOGII on that article.
    @Falkirks: I assume making this search with a bot should be easy. Could you take care of it? Include any variation of the LGBT+ acronym. Thanks! --Ondo (talk) 14:21, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
    Yup! I can get that done either today or tomorrow. Falkirks (talk) 14:44, 15 April 2019 (UTC)
    I excluded internal links (to LGBT) from the results and this is what I got:
    • LGB (3)
    • LGBT (153)
    • LGBTT (11)
    • LGBTI (2)
    • LGBT+ (13)
    • LGBTQ (26)
    • LGBTIQ (3)
    • LGBTQ+ (7)
    • LGBTQI (12)
    • LGBTQIA+ (1)
    These are rough numbers, and a lot of the variety comes from articles which are glossaries or speciifcally talk about the variety of terms. But it does seem that we have a strong bias for "LGBT" right now. Falkirks (talk) 17:53, 16 April 2019 (UTC)
    @MorningSparrow and Falkirks: great, thanks! We could add "LGBT" as the preferred neutral form to talk about the community, then. What do you think? Ping @Sekhet: too. --Ondo (talk) 18:37, 20 April 2019 (UTC)
    @MorningSparrow, Falkirks and Sekhet: bumping this in case you missed the notification. --Ondo (talk) 14:38, 4 May 2019 (UTC)
    Oh got it! This sounds good :) Falkirks (talk) 09:13, 5 May 2019 (UTC)

    Images[edit source]

    Any guidelines about images and pertinence I should know, official or otherwise?