Talk:Notable nonbinary people: Difference between revisions

Revision as of 17:30, 3 April 2020

Change name of article

Because it can be difficult to call whether someone is a "celebrity" or not, I'd like to change the name of this article from "nonbinary celebrities" to "notable nonbinary people." Then we could include historical figures and activists in it as well. -Sekhet (talk) 14:34, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

@Sekhet: that's a good idea, I like it! --Ondo (talk) 14:59, 20 March 2019 (UTC)

Question

Is the goal to get everyone on this page to also have their own NBwiki page? Or is there some qualifier for when a separate page is merited? --TXJ (talk) 16:29, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

@TXJ: as per the Content policy, A person is considered notable and acceptable in the wiki if their identity somehow falls outside the gender binary and if some kind of media has talked about them. Social media (such as Twitter or personal blogs) are not enough justification for the inclusion of a biography. It's likely that most (if not all) people in this page can have their own pages, but it depends on the coverage by third-party sources. Thanks for asking, and for all your help to the project! :) --Ondo (talk) 16:45, 29 March 2020 (UTC)

Found more

...a lot more listed on this page: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_LGBT/PersonsByGenderIdentity --TXJ (talk) 16:59, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

@TXJ: that's a lot! I've tinkered with Wikidata a little bit and made a list filtering only people who are not binary (that list includes binary trans people): https://w.wiki/Lxn. That's a total of 607 people, which is still a lot. I'm not good enough at this system to be able to add stuff like the actual identity of the person in the table, but clicking the link that starts with wd:Q should take you to the page of each person. But at this point... I'm not sure what we should do. We can't have a page with 607 mini-biographies; the page is already long and has only 54! I see two options:

Turning this page into a list, no mini-biographies, just name, identity and maybe occupation and birth/death. And then each one can have their own article.
Dividing this page into multiple pages grouped by profession or activity (like, List of nonbinary artists and so on)

I think the first one is better, to avoid duplicate content, what do you think? --Ondo (talk) 17:30, 3 April 2020 (UTC)

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 ...a lot more listed on this page: https://www.wikidata.org/wiki/Wikidata:WikiProject_LGBT/PersonsByGenderIdentity --[[User:TXJ|TXJ]] ([[User talk:TXJ|talk]]) 16:59, 3 April 2020 (UTC)
+:{{ping|TXJ}} that's a lot! I've tinkered with Wikidata a little bit and made a list filtering only people who are not binary (that list includes binary trans people): https://w.wiki/Lxn. That's a total of 607 people, which is still a lot. I'm not good enough at this system to be able to add stuff like the actual identity of the person in the table, but clicking the link that starts with ''wd:Q'' should take you to the page of each person. But at this point... I'm not sure what we should do. We can't have a page with 607 mini-biographies; the page is already long and has only 54! I see two options:
+:* Turning this page into a list, no mini-biographies, just name, identity and maybe occupation and birth/death. And then each one can have their own article.
+:* Dividing this page into multiple pages grouped by profession or activity (like, ''List of nonbinary artists'' and so on)
+:I think the first one is better, to avoid duplicate content, what do you think? --[[User:Ondo|Ondo]] ([[User talk:Ondo|talk]]) 17:30, 3 April 2020 (UTC)