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[[File:Androgyne Necker Cube.png|thumb|Androgyne symbol. In 1996, self-identified androgyne Raphael Carter proposed taking up this ambiguous geometric shape, the Necker Cube, as a symbol for androgynes, "because it is either concave or convex depending on how you look at it."<ref>Raphael Carter, "Angel's Dictionary." July 14, 1996. [http://web.archive.org/web/19990427014012/www.chaparraltree.com/raq/angels.shtml http://web.archive.org/web/19990427014012/www.chaparraltree.com/raq/angels.shtml]</ref><ref>Nat Titman, "The Necker Cube: Symbol for androgyny." June 25, 2011. ''Practical Androgyny.'' [http://practicalandrogyny.com/2011/06/25/the-necker-cube-symbol-for-androgyny/ http://practicalandrogyny.com/2011/06/25/the-necker-cube-symbol-for-androgyny/]</ref>]] | [[File:Androgyne Necker Cube.png|thumb|Androgyne symbol. In 1996, self-identified androgyne Raphael Carter proposed taking up this ambiguous geometric shape, the Necker Cube, as a symbol for androgynes, "because it is either concave or convex depending on how you look at it."<ref>Raphael Carter, "Angel's Dictionary." July 14, 1996. [http://web.archive.org/web/19990427014012/www.chaparraltree.com/raq/angels.shtml http://web.archive.org/web/19990427014012/www.chaparraltree.com/raq/angels.shtml]</ref><ref>Nat Titman, "The Necker Cube: Symbol for androgyny." June 25, 2011. ''Practical Androgyny.'' [http://practicalandrogyny.com/2011/06/25/the-necker-cube-symbol-for-androgyny/ http://practicalandrogyny.com/2011/06/25/the-necker-cube-symbol-for-androgyny/] [https://web.archive.org/web/20230131181750/https://practicalandrogyny.com/2011/06/25/the-necker-cube-symbol-for-androgyny/ Archived] on 17 July 2023</ref>]] | ||
[[File:Gender-Symbol Hermaphrodite Androgyne dark transparent Background.png|thumb|A mix of the male (Mars) and female (Venus) [[gender symbols]]. A symbol for androgyne, hermaphrodite, or [[intersex]]. Sometimes shown pointing in any different direction. Also the alchemist symbol for iron sulfate. Unicode: U+26A8 ⚨]] | [[File:Gender-Symbol Hermaphrodite Androgyne dark transparent Background.png|thumb|A mix of the male (Mars) and female (Venus) [[gender symbols]]. A symbol for androgyne, hermaphrodite, or [[intersex]]. Sometimes shown pointing in any different direction. Also the alchemist symbol for iron sulfate. Unicode: U+26A8 ⚨]] | ||
[[File:Andro.png|thumb|The flag described above]] | [[File:Andro.png|thumb|The flag described above]] | ||
'''Androgyne''' (Latin from Greek, ''andras-'' "man" + ''gune'' "woman", pronounced AN-druh-jin, IPA: ˈan-dɹə-ˌdʒīn),<ref>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/androgyne</ref> '''androgyn''' or '''androgynous gender''', is an identity under the [[nonbinary]] and [[transgender]] umbrellas. Some writers use androgyne as an umbrella for many nonbinary genders.<ref>''Androgyne Online.'' http://androgyne.0catch.com/</ref> Androgynes have a [[gender identity]] that can be a blend of both or neither of the [[binary gender]]s. They may describe this as being between [[female]] and [[male]], between man and woman, between masculine and feminine or simply 'in between.' They can also identify as neither feminine or masculine, or neither female and male. The symbol ⚨ is used to represent this gender identity. | '''Androgyne''' (Latin from Greek, ''andras-'' "man" + ''gune'' "woman", pronounced AN-druh-jin, IPA: ˈan-dɹə-ˌdʒīn),<ref>http://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/androgyne [https://web.archive.org/web/20230527213452/https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/androgyne Archived] on 17 July 2023</ref> '''androgyn''' or '''androgynous gender''', is an identity under the [[nonbinary]] and [[transgender]] umbrellas. Some writers use androgyne as an umbrella for many nonbinary genders.<ref>''Androgyne Online.'' http://androgyne.0catch.com/ [https://web.archive.org/web/20200206175358/http://androgyne.0catch.com:80/ Archived] on 17 July 2023</ref> Androgynes have a [[gender identity]] that can be a blend of both or neither of the [[binary gender]]s. They may describe this as being between [[female]] and [[male]], between man and woman, between masculine and feminine or simply 'in between.' They can also identify as neither feminine or masculine, or neither female and male. The symbol ⚨ is used to represent this gender identity. | ||
==History== | ==History== | ||
Historically, there have been some instances of people using the term ''[[bisexual]]'' to refer to androgynes, androgynous people, or [[intersex]] people. An example of the use of this word, found in pop culture, is in the 50th episode of the 2nd season of ''Star Trek'', "The Trouble with Tribbles", where Dr. McCoy refers to the tribbles (an alien species) as ''bisexual''.<ref>[http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/42.htm The Star Trek Transcripts: The Trouble with Tribbles]: ''[...] it seems they're bisexual, reproducing at will. [...]''</ref> The term was also historically used to refer to feminine gay men, with its masculine lesbian equivalent being gynander, around the late 19th century and early 20th century.<ref>{{Cite book|title=The Alyson Almanac: A Treasury of Information for the Gay and Lesbian Community|collaboration=Alyson Publications|publisher=Alyson Publications|year=1990|isbn=9781555830199|edition=2nd|location=Boston, Massachusetts|pages=58, 64}}</ref> | Historically, there have been some instances of people using the term ''[[bisexual]]'' to refer to androgynes, androgynous people, or [[intersex]] people. An example of the use of this word, found in pop culture, is in the 50th episode of the 2nd season of ''Star Trek'', "The Trouble with Tribbles", where Dr. McCoy refers to the tribbles (an alien species) as ''bisexual''.<ref>[http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/42.htm The Star Trek Transcripts: The Trouble with Tribbles]: ''[...] it seems they're bisexual, reproducing at will. [...]'' [https://web.archive.org/web/20230705170956/http://www.chakoteya.net/StarTrek/42.htm Archived] on 17 July 2023</ref> The term was also historically used to refer to feminine gay men, with its masculine lesbian equivalent being gynander, around the late 19th century and early 20th century.<ref>{{Cite book|title=The Alyson Almanac: A Treasury of Information for the Gay and Lesbian Community|collaboration=Alyson Publications|publisher=Alyson Publications|year=1990|isbn=9781555830199|edition=2nd|location=Boston, Massachusetts|pages=58, 64}}</ref> | ||
The glossary in a 2003 anthology of essays on diversity of sex and gender defined "androgyne" as "someone who considers themselves to be both male and female. It can also mean someone who identifies as [[neuter]]."<ref>{{cite book|title=Finding the Real Me: True Tales of Sex and Gender Diversity|year 2003|url=https://archive.org/details/findingrealmetru00trac/page/n19/mode/2up|page=xviii}}</ref> | The glossary in a 2003 anthology of essays on diversity of sex and gender defined "androgyne" as "someone who considers themselves to be both male and female. It can also mean someone who identifies as [[neuter]]."<ref>{{cite book|title=Finding the Real Me: True Tales of Sex and Gender Diversity|year 2003|url=https://archive.org/details/findingrealmetru00trac/page/n19/mode/2up|page=xviii|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20220913110137/https://archive.org/details/findingrealmetru00trac/page/n19/mode/2up|archive-date=17 July 2023}}</ref> | ||
"Androgyne" has also been used as an umbrella term similar to [[nonbinary]], as in this quote from a 2010 encyclopedia: | "Androgyne" has also been used as an umbrella term similar to [[nonbinary]], as in this quote from a 2010 encyclopedia: | ||
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Some people who call themselves androgynes identify with [[androgyny]] as a gender presentation, or have or wish to obtain an androgynous, 'in between', or neutral body, others see this as only a matter of gender identity and may express their androgynous gender through their personality or activities such as [[Clothing|crossdressing]]. | Some people who call themselves androgynes identify with [[androgyny]] as a gender presentation, or have or wish to obtain an androgynous, 'in between', or neutral body, others see this as only a matter of gender identity and may express their androgynous gender through their personality or activities such as [[Clothing|crossdressing]]. | ||
Some use the word androgyne to mean only a gender identity, and use the words androgynous or androgyny for gender expression.<ref>''Androgyne Online.'' [http://androgyne.0catch.com/ http://androgyne.0catch.com/]</ref> An androgyne may or may not look androgynous. Someone who looks androgynous may or may not be an androgyne. A "psychological androgyne" is one term for a person who has an androgynous gender identity, but doesn't necessarily look androgynous,<ref>''Androgyne Online.'' [http://androgyne.0catch.com/ http://androgyne.0catch.com/]</ref> and some such people have created the word "androgyneity" for their inner androgyny, to distinguish it from outward androgyny of appearance.<ref>Stephe, "Psychological androgynes." ''Androgyne Online.'' 2013. [http://androgyne.0catch.com/psych.htm http://androgyne.0catch.com/psych.htm]</ref> These terms are useful for people who feel they are androgynes, but aren't sure if they can call themselves so, because of how they look. The connection between androgyny and androgynes can cause frustration for some people: | Some use the word androgyne to mean only a gender identity, and use the words androgynous or androgyny for gender expression.<ref>''Androgyne Online.'' [http://androgyne.0catch.com/ http://androgyne.0catch.com/] [https://web.archive.org/web/20200206175358/http://androgyne.0catch.com:80/ Archived] on 17 July 2023</ref> An androgyne may or may not look androgynous. Someone who looks androgynous may or may not be an androgyne. A "psychological androgyne" is one term for a person who has an androgynous gender identity, but doesn't necessarily look androgynous,<ref>''Androgyne Online.'' [http://androgyne.0catch.com/ http://androgyne.0catch.com/] [https://web.archive.org/web/20200206175358/http://androgyne.0catch.com:80/ Archived] on 17 July 2023</ref> and some such people have created the word "androgyneity" for their inner androgyny, to distinguish it from outward androgyny of appearance.<ref>Stephe, "Psychological androgynes." ''Androgyne Online.'' 2013. [http://androgyne.0catch.com/psych.htm http://androgyne.0catch.com/psych.htm] [https://web.archive.org/web/20190929154955/http://androgyne.0catch.com/psych.htm Archived] on 17 July 2023</ref> These terms are useful for people who feel they are androgynes, but aren't sure if they can call themselves so, because of how they look. The connection between androgyny and androgynes can cause frustration for some people: | ||
<blockquote>"Those born with androgynous looks -- especially if they are not androgynes -- often wish that their gender presentation was unambiguous so as to not be teased, harassed or mistaken for the opposite sex, while androgynes born without androgynous looks (i.e. psychological androgynes) often wish that their gender presentation was markedly ambiguous so as to convey outwardly what they feel inwardly."<ref>''Androgyne Online.'' [http://androgyne.0catch.com/ http://androgyne.0catch.com/]</ref></blockquote> | <blockquote>"Those born with androgynous looks -- especially if they are not androgynes -- often wish that their gender presentation was unambiguous so as to not be teased, harassed or mistaken for the opposite sex, while androgynes born without androgynous looks (i.e. psychological androgynes) often wish that their gender presentation was markedly ambiguous so as to convey outwardly what they feel inwardly."<ref>''Androgyne Online.'' [http://androgyne.0catch.com/ http://androgyne.0catch.com/] [https://web.archive.org/web/20200206175358/http://androgyne.0catch.com:80/ Archived] on 17 July 2023</ref></blockquote> | ||
Androgynes who don't look androgynous may wish they looked more androgynous, while non-androgynes who look androgynous may wish they looked less androgynous. | Androgynes who don't look androgynous may wish they looked more androgynous, while non-androgynes who look androgynous may wish they looked less androgynous. | ||
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On the other hand, some [[androgyny|androgynously presenting]] people only use 'androgyne' for their presentation, while having a different gender identity. For example '[[genderqueer]] androgyne' or '[[agender]] androgyne', similar to how one may say 'genderqueer woman'. There are also people who describe themselves as a "masculine androgyne" (on the female-to-male or trans masculine spectrum) or a "feminine androgyne" (on the male-to-female or trans feminine spectrum) meaning that they almost but not quite fit into that part of the gender binary.<ref>Raven Kaldera, "Feminist On Testosterone: The View From An Intersexual FTM." February 2003. [http://www.ravenkaldera.org/gender-archive/feminist-on-testosterone.html http://www.ravenkaldera.org/gender-archive/feminist-on-testosterone.html]</ref> | On the other hand, some [[androgyny|androgynously presenting]] people only use 'androgyne' for their presentation, while having a different gender identity. For example '[[genderqueer]] androgyne' or '[[agender]] androgyne', similar to how one may say 'genderqueer woman'. There are also people who describe themselves as a "masculine androgyne" (on the female-to-male or trans masculine spectrum) or a "feminine androgyne" (on the male-to-female or trans feminine spectrum) meaning that they almost but not quite fit into that part of the gender binary.<ref>Raven Kaldera, "Feminist On Testosterone: The View From An Intersexual FTM." February 2003. [http://www.ravenkaldera.org/gender-archive/feminist-on-testosterone.html http://www.ravenkaldera.org/gender-archive/feminist-on-testosterone.html]</ref> | ||
Some androgynes don't think of themselves as transgender or transsexual ([[cisgender]]). Some transgender or transsexual androgynes go on a physical transition to make their body more androgynous.<ref>''Androgyne Online.'' [http://androgyne.0catch.com/ http://androgyne.0catch.com/]</ref> | Some androgynes don't think of themselves as transgender or transsexual ([[cisgender]]). Some transgender or transsexual androgynes go on a physical transition to make their body more androgynous.<ref>''Androgyne Online.'' [http://androgyne.0catch.com/ http://androgyne.0catch.com/] [https://web.archive.org/web/20200206175358/http://androgyne.0catch.com:80/ Archived] on 17 July 2023</ref> | ||
==Androgynes and intersex== | ==Androgynes and intersex== | ||
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That said, there is a relationship between a person's sex and gender, and the connection between intersex and androgyne might not end there: | That said, there is a relationship between a person's sex and gender, and the connection between intersex and androgyne might not end there: | ||
<blockquote>"Androgyneity [sic, meaning androgyny of gender identity, rather than of gender expression], when conceptualized as [[intergender]], can be seen as the psychological counterpart to intersex. Androgynes are intermediate in gender, while intersex(ed) folks are sexually intermediate. [...] some intersex activists opine that androgynes have intersex brains (and that [[transsexual|transsexuals]] are intersex on account of the relationship between their brains and their genitalia)."<ref>''Androgyne Online.'' [http://androgyne.0catch.com/ http://androgyne.0catch.com/]</ref></blockquote> | <blockquote>"Androgyneity [sic, meaning androgyny of gender identity, rather than of gender expression], when conceptualized as [[intergender]], can be seen as the psychological counterpart to intersex. Androgynes are intermediate in gender, while intersex(ed) folks are sexually intermediate. [...] some intersex activists opine that androgynes have intersex brains (and that [[transsexual|transsexuals]] are intersex on account of the relationship between their brains and their genitalia)."<ref>''Androgyne Online.'' [http://androgyne.0catch.com/ http://androgyne.0catch.com/] [https://web.archive.org/web/20200206175358/http://androgyne.0catch.com:80/ Archived] on 17 July 2023</ref></blockquote> | ||
There may be a connection between intersex conditions and not only androgyne gender identities, but transgender identities of many kinds. This is not known for certain at this time. | There may be a connection between intersex conditions and not only androgyne gender identities, but transgender identities of many kinds. This is not known for certain at this time. | ||
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==Similar genders== | ==Similar genders== | ||
The etymology of the word "androgyne" describes a mix of male and female, although it is just as often used to mean an absence of male or female traits. A person who feels they are neither female nor male might find a different word suits them better, such as [[neutrois]], [[aporagender]], or [[maverique]]. A person who feels they are neither female nor male, and are completely genderless, might find that [[agender]] is a word that fits them better. There is another concern about the etymology of the word. Some people with nonbinary gender identities who could call themselves androgynes prefer not to, giving the concern that the word "androgyne reinforces the gender binary by invoking the two polar [binary] genders in its very name. Some genderqueer and gender variant folk say that there are as many genders as there are stars in the sky."<ref>"Androgyne Online." [http://androgyne.0catch.com/ http://androgyne.0catch.com/]</ref> For this reason, androgyne isn't as good of an umbrella term as "nonbinary." That said, anyone who wishes to call themself an androgyne has the right to do so. | The etymology of the word "androgyne" describes a mix of male and female, although it is just as often used to mean an absence of male or female traits. A person who feels they are neither female nor male might find a different word suits them better, such as [[neutrois]], [[aporagender]], or [[maverique]]. A person who feels they are neither female nor male, and are completely genderless, might find that [[agender]] is a word that fits them better. There is another concern about the etymology of the word. Some people with nonbinary gender identities who could call themselves androgynes prefer not to, giving the concern that the word "androgyne reinforces the gender binary by invoking the two polar [binary] genders in its very name. Some genderqueer and gender variant folk say that there are as many genders as there are stars in the sky."<ref>"Androgyne Online." [http://androgyne.0catch.com/ http://androgyne.0catch.com/] [https://web.archive.org/web/20200206175358/http://androgyne.0catch.com:80/ Archived] on 17 July 2023</ref> For this reason, androgyne isn't as good of an umbrella term as "nonbinary." That said, anyone who wishes to call themself an androgyne has the right to do so. | ||
Like androgyne, [[intergender]] is a gender identity that is in the middle between the binary genders of female and male, and may be a mix of both. Intergender people may or may not give an androgynous gender expression. One difference is that some intergender people argue that it is an identity label that only intersex people should take up. | Like androgyne, [[intergender]] is a gender identity that is in the middle between the binary genders of female and male, and may be a mix of both. Intergender people may or may not give an androgynous gender expression. One difference is that some intergender people argue that it is an identity label that only intersex people should take up. | ||
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*''[http://tapastic.com/episode/40617 Snailed It]'' by SnaiLords, who "identifies with both genders" and described themselves as an "androgynous snail". | *''[http://tapastic.com/episode/40617 Snailed It]'' by SnaiLords, who "identifies with both genders" and described themselves as an "androgynous snail". | ||
*[https://matrix.fandom.com/wiki/Switch Switch] from ''The Matrix'' is described by the Wachowski sisters as a "[https://web.archive.org/web/20020826053632/http://sfy.iv.ru/sfy.html?script=matrix_ds beautiful androgyne]" in the original script and was originally intended to be played by two different actors, one inside the Matrix and another in the real world. Warner Brothers cut this particular idea, leaving actress [https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0565883/ Belinda McClory] to play both roles<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/trivia|title=The Matrix (1999) - IMDb|access-date=2021-05-31}}</ref>. | *[https://matrix.fandom.com/wiki/Switch Switch] from ''The Matrix'' is described by the Wachowski sisters as a "[https://web.archive.org/web/20020826053632/http://sfy.iv.ru/sfy.html?script=matrix_ds beautiful androgyne]" in the original script and was originally intended to be played by two different actors, one inside the Matrix and another in the real world. Warner Brothers cut this particular idea, leaving actress [https://www.imdb.com/name/nm0565883/ Belinda McClory] to play both roles<ref>{{Cite web|url=http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/trivia|title=The Matrix (1999) - IMDb|access-date=2021-05-31|archive-url=https://web.archive.org/web/20230603022715/http://www.imdb.com/title/tt0133093/trivia/|archive-date=17 July 2023}}</ref>. | ||
''Please help expand this section.'' | ''Please help expand this section.'' | ||